.HOL File question and default callout

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September 30, 2025
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When we originally did our .Hol files over a decade ago we decided it wasn't possible to call out both FREE and CLOSE in the callout formats. The Hole note on the drawing could only be shown as a Free(what we set it as).

Is that still the case? When i add in CLOSE to the matrix/table it still just only gives me a Free callout and not the Close when Close is the value set in the model

Thanks!

DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA
HOLE_TYPE THREAD DRILLED_DEPTH THREAD_DEPTH CSINK CBORE EXIT_CSINK CALLOUT_FORMAT
CLEARANCE NO THRU_ALL NA NO NO NO &HOLE_INSTANCE_COUNT&HOLE_INSTANCE_X_SYMBOL <CTRL-a>n<CTRL-b>&FREE_DEC[.2] DRILL <CTRL-A>x<CTRL-B> &DRILL_DEPTH

CLEARANCE NO THRU_ALL NA NO NO NO &HOLE_INSTANCE_COUNT&HOLE_INSTANCE_X_SYMBOL <CTRL-a>n<CTRL-b>&CLOSE_DEC[.2] DRILL <CTRL-A>x<CTRL-B> &DRILL_DEPTH

Best answer by MartinHanak

@jchance wrote:

PTC said there's a bug in the system

Hi,

trail file contains following information (I renamed NPT-JAMIE.hol to NPT_REFINED.hol]

!%CILoading Hole Charts ... 
!%CWFormat error in fastener input file : E:\PTC\Creo10_060\Creo 10.0.6.0\Common Files\text\hole\NPT_REFINED.hol at line no: 38

This means that Creo does not accept bottom part of .hol file, i.e. CALLOUT FORMAT definition table.

I apologize that I do not have time to resolve your problem.

J

jchance

Author

11-Garnet

Going through the PTC Help some more...

i changed Free Dec/Close Dec/Etc to report &DIAMETER instead of &FREE_DEC. Working through some other stuff, but i think i got a handle on some of this after not looking at it for a decade

DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA
HOLE_TYPE THREAD DRILLED_DEPTH THREAD_DEPTH CSINK CBORE EXIT_CSINK CALLOUT_FORMAT
CLEARANCE NO THRU_ALL NA NO NO NO &HOLE_INSTANCE_COUNT&HOLE_INSTANCE_X_SYMBOL <CTRL-a>n<CTRL-b>&DIAMETER[.2] DRILL <CTRL-A>x<CTRL-B> &DRILL_DEPTH

J

jchance

Author

11-Garnet

Help from anyone:

Is there a way to have two different countersink diameters in the same .HOL file?

I model a countersink for every tapped hole i use and i have to manually adjust the diameter to the desired number.

Do i have to have two different hole files to do that? ie Tapped UNC and Clearance UNC?

J

jchance

Author

11-Garnet

I created a custom NPT file. I have it loaded into the directory that my other .HOL files are. All of the straight drill .hol files are being read correctly, but the NPT .HOL file isn't being read. I've renamed it to something different (thread series thread name) and I've also copied the same name as the commonfiles NPT file. Neither is working.

Any ideas?

M

MartinHanak

24-Ruby III

@jchance wrote:

I created a custom NPT file. I have it loaded into the directory that my other .HOL files are. All of the straight drill .hol files are being read correctly, but the NPT .HOL file isn't being read. I've renamed it to something different (thread series thread name) and I've also copied the same name as the commonfiles NPT file. Neither is working.

Any ideas?

Hi,

there is probably an error in your file. Please upload it.