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Blackhawk12-Amethyst
12-Amethyst
March 19, 2019
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Questions on standard assembly screw library in Creo 3.0

  • March 19, 2019
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Hello - I am using Creo 3.0 with Windchill 11.0.  I am looking to start using the included lite version of the Intelligent Fastener Extension.  I had a few questions:

 

1) How does Windchill handle the standard hardware library?  For example, if I create a screw using the library, what happens when I check it in to Windchill?  How does it work if another user creates the same screw and also tries to check it in?

 

2) Does anyone know why the DIN912 socket head cap screw option does not contain anything smaller than a M4 size?

 

3) I notice that the DIN912 option only creates one object in my workspace, but the ANSI-Metric will create a huge list of parts in my workspace even though I only used one screw in my assembly.  Why does the ANSI-Metric screws create family tables in the workspace, but DIN912 does not?

 

Thanks!

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BenLoosli23-Emerald III
23-Emerald III
March 19, 2019

Not answering your questions but raising more issues with IFX.

 

Using the light version, you cannot modify them to be your part numbers and they come as some generic name and description. In order to modify the tables, you need the full version.

I would hope that ALL of the hardware is in family tables. We used Cadenas for a while, what a disaster!!! Every part was individual and had 3X as many dimensions as needed. A real pain to clean up.

Does DIN912 cover smaller than M4 screws?

 

As for Windchill. the first user to create a part and check it in wins. Everyone else will have to use that screw from Windchill and not create a new one. Windchill will NOT allow a second file of the same name to be checked in.

 

 

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Blackhawk12-AmethystAuthor
12-Amethyst
March 19, 2019

DIN912 covers down to a M1.6 size.

 

I was hoping that there might be some intelligence within Windchill that could recognize the screws created in session and not have to be checked out from Windchill every time.

 

Not all of the hardware comes into the workspace as a family table.

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TomU23-Emerald IV
23-Emerald IV
March 19, 2019

We don't currently use these but there is a way to manually upload all of them to Windchill.  Take a look at this knowledge base article:  https://www.ptc.com/en/support/article?n=CS183030

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OliverGräbner17-Peridot
17-Peridot
March 19, 2019

Hi,

here are some answers:

 

1) The goal should be to have all fasteners in Windchill. Then all user can use these fasteners. It does not make sense to create the fastener for each user (even if this is possible if you do not check it in). It is also possible to add your legacy fastener data to IFX (require the full version).

 

2) IFX only has sizes from M4 up to M36 at the moment. Of course you can add other sizes if needed. But this also require the full version. If you want you can add a enhancement request to PTC to add other size.

 

3) There are two kinds of library parts in IFX. One use a single part for each new fastener copied from a template part. The other kind use a family table with all instance for each size. In IFX you find the files with family table in the subfolder <ifx>\parts\prolibrary. In these folder some fasteners from the ProLibrary  are added. 

In addition there are some pem nuts in <ifx>\parts\ifx_fastener_archive.

This is the reason why sometimes a family table is loaded and sometimes only one part. 

We want to give the user the flexibility to work like he prefer.

 

NOTE: In the new Creo Design packages the full version of IFX is already included without additional payment.

 

Regards,
Oli

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Blackhawk12-AmethystAuthor
12-Amethyst
March 19, 2019

Thanks for all the replies.  Here is how I would like for the Lite version to work.  Is this possible?

 

I load the Lite version IFX library into Windchill.  Any user then uses the screw creator within Creo 3.0 in their assembly to add screws to their model.  The screws are then added to the workspace automatically.   I would also like to add two parameters to the fasteners for an internal part number and description.  This would be the same parameters for all users. 

 

I prefer not having a family table for the fasteners as this adds a huge number of items into your workspace.

 

 

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OliverGräbner17-Peridot
17-Peridot
March 20, 2019

Hi, 

adding all fasteners is possible. But you should review the screw/dowel pin catalogs first. 

Remove all content you do not need - especially the prolibrary files, because they use family table parts. (red marked in image)

 screenshot_20190320_080722.png

 

Adding parameters is not supported in the free version. This requires the full version.

But you can reuse the NAMING and DESIGNATION parameters. These are free parameter.

 

Regards,
Oli

 

 

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