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June 19, 2014
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relevant learnings from the PTC Live Global event.

  • June 19, 2014
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Hi folks,



Other than the huge item we all are discussing regarding PTCUser. there are
a couple of things that I learned that we have discussed on here recently.



Creo 3.0 has a lot of decent changes that we will like - among which are:

you can specify 3 colors for draft check.

MMB to kill the measure tool

Those two really please me.



Another that I am excited with cautious optimism: they've reconstructed the
edit references tool to have a dashboard and added a handful of tools that -
in the DEMO - make it look much more helpful. We'll see.



Honestly, I have never been looking forward to an F000 build before, but I
am now. It seems like they have done a decent job and have addressed issues
and added functionality to make 3.0 much better. Again, we'll see.



I have never used Creo Direct or the Freestyle tool that comes in Creo
Parametric, but I saw demos on both and I am intrigued. The Freestyle
feature now is able to be tied to parametric geometry so one can control the
freestyle geometry to some extent.



RMB context menus are now configurable - in a very limited way, but the
promise was made that the freedom of customizing will grow in subsequent
releases. There are now icons in the RMB menus for redefine and reroute
making selection of those commands much easier and quicker. They have not
improved the ribbon scheme at all.



Dynamic interference check. I didn't see it really, only heard about it.



Smart fasteners - again, not sure how it works, but the demo showed a bolt
selected and positioned in the assy where it needed to go and the clearance
and threaded holes in the parts were created and washer assembled
automatically. I see that as not working as well in real life, but it could
be a time saver.



Chordal round was added (keep constant width.)



Ref Pattern does not req. the leader to be used.



Also,



We had a thread on here not too long ago about the (lack of a) materials
database inside Creo - I met a company in the Expo that offers just that -
materials database for Creo. He would not tell me what it cost, so you know
it isn't $50 - probably more like $5000 - who knows. But it might be of
interest to some - grantadesign.com



Back to work.



-Nate


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33 replies

1-Visitor
June 20, 2014
What is that config option? I'd really like to turn this on, especially when the references are damaged, or missing.

Christopher F. Gosnell

FPD Company
124 Hidden Valley Road
McMurray, PA 15317
1-Visitor
June 20, 2014

Chris,


If memory serves....I think it's ref_scope_something. I could be way off.

nrollins2-ExplorerAuthor
2-Explorer
June 20, 2014
If he gave it to us, I did not write it down. But it is on by default. I
wonder if it is a hidden option in CR2.?






10-Marble
June 20, 2014

Another one I found out about, was a config option that will allow the Measure Tool to open with the window expanded. This is another part of the Measure Tool that is frustrating.




In Reply to Nathan Rollins:


Hi folks,



Other than the huge item we all are discussing regarding PTCUser. there are
a couple of things that I learned that we have discussed on here recently.



Creo 3.0 has a lot of decent changes that we will like - among which are:

you can specify 3 colors for draft check.

MMB to kill the measure tool

Those two really please me.



Another that I am excited with cautious optimism: they've reconstructed the
edit references tool to have a dashboard and added a handful of tools that -
in the DEMO - make it look much more helpful. We'll see.



Honestly, I have never been looking forward to an F000 build before, but I
am now. It seems like they have done a decent job and have addressed issues
and added functionality to make 3.0 much better. Again, we'll see.



I have never used Creo Direct or the Freestyle tool that comes in Creo
Parametric, but I saw demos on both and I am intrigued. The Freestyle
feature now is able to be tied to parametric geometry so one can control the
freestyle geometry to some extent.



RMB context menus are now configurable - in a very limited way, but the
promise was made that the freedom of customizing will grow in subsequent
releases. There are now icons in the RMB menus for redefine and reroute
making selection of those commands much easier and quicker. They have not
improved the ribbon scheme at all.



Dynamic interference check. I didn't see it really, only heard about it.



Smart fasteners - again, not sure how it works, but the demo showed a bolt
selected and positioned in the assy where it needed to go and the clearance
and threaded holes in the parts were created and washer assembled
automatically. I see that as not working as well in real life, but it could
be a time saver.



Chordal round was added (keep constant width.)



Ref Pattern does not req. the leader to be used.



Also,



We had a thread on here not too long ago about the (lack of a) materials
database inside Creo - I met a company in the Expo that offers just that -
materials database for Creo. He would not tell me what it cost, so you know
it isn't $50 - probably more like $5000 - who knows. But it might be of
interest to some - grantadesign.com



Back to work.



-Nate

12-Amethyst
June 20, 2014
Chris, I think these three params are what you are looking for.

cleanup_drawing_dependencies yes_cs_not_required
cleanup_layout_dependencies yes_cs_not_required
dm_hide_model_dummy_deps yes


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Once you are done cleaning up, comment them out or change the value to NO. Per PTC, you do not want to leave them in your config set to yes as default.

NOTE: DO NOT ENABLE THE CLEANUP OPTIONS BY DEFAULT
* Many dependencies which initially appear as ghost objects or default references may be valid and should not be removed. If the cleanup options are applied indiscriminately, it is possible to remove dependencies which were used in the drawing or layout (For example: After cleanup of a valid depedendency, a drawing cosmetic reference may have asterisks "***" in place of the value(s), or an external reference parameter may not update correctly when the layout parameter is changed.).
* Enable the options when attempting to cleanup specific drawings or layouts
* Retrieval performance is significantly decreased when the cleanup options are enabled as Pro/ENGINEER or Creo Parametric will automatically search the Commonspace for each missing object during retrieval

Good Luck!

Calvin
nrollins2-ExplorerAuthor
2-Explorer
June 20, 2014
Yes - along with that, the old replace workflow - where you pick one entity
to measure from and the second pick gets replaced automatically by
subsequent picks.



measure_dialog_expand (y/n)

measure_auto_replace (y/n)



and even better:



measure_ref_option (cannot read my writing.)

This one remembers your selection of "use as axis" or "use as plane"



And I have not tried it, but I think he said this will work in the current
Creo2 build (m100+). Someone try it please and report in! I am not able to
right now. (too bad there's not a "close_measure_with_mmb")



-Nate


1-Visitor
June 20, 2014
Creo 2, M110
measure_dialog_expand works nicely.
5-Regular Member
June 20, 2014
Both work in C2 M100

measure_dialog_expand (y/n)

measure_auto_replace (y/n)

Very helpful.



Ken L. Nunn, Technical Director. +61 427-454-511


1-Visitor
June 20, 2014
This is a PERFECT example of the exploder working so well!!

I didn't know I even wanted these setting in our config files... just tested them and now I will implement. Improvement made in our workflow without much effort at all!

PS - NEVER WOULD HAVE FOUND THESE IN A FORUM... Because I wouldn't have been searching for something I didn't know existed! It was hand deliveried (via e-mail) on a plater.

Michael Ohlrich, Design Engineer
Benchmade Knife Company
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13-Aquamarine
June 20, 2014
I think the option is :

measure_auto_replace_mode yes

Are you missing the _mode?

Bill Chapman
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