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8-Gravel
February 20, 2012
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Tool Import of Speeds and Feeds

  • February 20, 2012
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Is there a way to have the speeds and feeds that are put into a tool you create in a library automatically be put into the "Parameter" of the sequence you want to use based on the tool info? Seems like the tool has the info relative to it but when selecting the tool I want to use the data for the parameter has to be in the saved "Parameters". Sorry if confusing. Trying to create a tool library for a new machine we are getting, any tips out there for dealing with tool libraries??? Also high speed machining parameters???

Jeff

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1-Visitor
February 21, 2012

Jeff,

Jeff Rembold did a webinar a while ago called NC Config Tips. In that webinar he explains how to setup the tool library and materials so the parameters are saved for tools.You can probably email him and get a copy of the presentation. His email is -

It is actually in the tech tips section of the ptc web site and it's called Configuration Best Practices in Creo Elements/Pro (formerly Pro/ENGINEER) Manufacturing NC Solutions. So if you have a current maintenance subscription you can download it or just wath it on the web site.

Hope this helps.

12-Amethyst
February 21, 2012

This type of functionality should be built into the software and not require any extra setup. That being said the video Steve mentioned will show you how to setup your material library and load speeds and feeds for your tools.

1-Visitor
February 21, 2012

I agree with you nick, The tool parameter setup in Wildfire is like a house of cards. make 1 change to a tool and the parameters disapear. it should be an easy thing to work with.but it's not. I am hoping for better things with Creo Parametric 2.0

1-Visitor
March 16, 2012

Jeff,

Have you tried creating site files for you generic milling parameters and building in equations in the machine parameters for speeds and feeds. For example I have A site file set up for the way I like to machine using trajectory I have for instance by spindle speed (sfm*3.82)/CUTTER_DIAM pro will do the math for you. Pro will automatically grab the tool diameter and also number of teeth and any other tool info and plug all the correct numbers in for the parameters. The only downfall is for machining different materials you have to change your sfm and chip per tooth. In the cut feed box I have the equation (SPINDLE_SPEED*CPT*NUMBER_FLUTES) also I have the step depth, plunge feed, step over setup on equations. This wording in the equations might not be exact because I do not have pro pulled up at the moment. But if you go to tools set-up and select tool info at the top A window will pop open with all the tool info words in the box's and those are the correct words to use for the equations. I will try to post A sample of my equations tomorrow. It sounds like a lot of work but it is real simple you basically will have your site files saved for you differnt toolpaths you can name them what ever you want and save as many as you want. Then when you create A toolpath you just open your site it fills in the parameters and that is it. As fas as your tool offset question goes if you always use the same tools on A particular work cell maybe you should just save A tool library to the work cell then the tool you want are always in the same pocket. I will post A sample of my parameters so you can try it out if you want.

Matt N.

14-Alexandrite
March 16, 2012

Matt,

I like your thought process and am always glad to hear of people taking as much advantage as possible of what the software can do! Your approach is certainly easier than the old "machinability database file" approach. (Does anyone rememebr that?)

There is also the capability to add user-defined parameters to cutting tools, using the config option mfg_custom_tool_param_file. Maybe you use this now. If not, search for it in the Help files. With your experience you might be able to think up some cool new uses for that capability. If so, please share them!

-Jeff.

1-Visitor
March 16, 2012

Jeff,

Here is A screen shot of the equations I was talking about. Also as I said before you can create as many site files as needed A suggestion would be to just create folders for different materials copy and paste your site files into them and change the cutting parameters in the equations per the different materials. I think I can set up A option to put in sfm if prefered but it will take me some time to do this but for now I think this would be helpful for you.

parameters.PNGparameters_2.JPG

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8-Gravel
March 20, 2012

Thanks for all the info guys!!! We are getting our new machine this week and will be formulating the process slowly as we go. Haven't got on here in awhile busy with work.....

Jeff