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April 5, 2010
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WF5 Detailing UI

  • April 5, 2010
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We adopted WF5 last week and I have had nothing but complaints from the user community regarding the increased amount of clicks to complete tasks. They have also found multiple problems using the show annotations tool. Does anyoneone have similar experiences or found ways to reduce the number of clicks in WF5 detailing.

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    1-Visitor
    April 16, 2010
    Try doing any cabling work.... The manuals and tutorial (from PTC university are only due out in June or July....) however I managed to route a network or a cable harness in WF3, is totally different or isn't possible in WF5.0.... Talk about productivity going down the tubes.....
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    April 16, 2010

    I actually enjoy the ribbon interface for drawings, tho I would admit that it is likely only valuable in the drawing format. I make some fairly large models with many parts. The drawing mode tends to get VERY slow and convulsive. I usually have to change the selection to specify what I am actually trying to get at. The ribbon interface allows me to cycle between sub-modes which I can independently modify the selection state (ie: drawing view in the layout ribbon, annotate in the annotation ribbon, BOM ballon in the table ribbon, etc.). I can then accomplish all my actions associated with that ribbon and then move on to the next ribbon. If I need to return to a prior ribbon, my selection preference is still the same as I left it from the previous visit.

    I can see how it would be annoying if one was only working with assemblies with less than say ... 100 parts in it. But for my application ... it is 10x faster and more stable in drawing mode than any of the WF predecessors.

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    April 16, 2010
    The "quick access" toolbar is not necessary, as you can still put as many extraneous toolbars and commands as you like in addition to the ribbon. I've put up a "save as" and a "print" command in my general toolbar, moved the display toolbars to the right so that I have ready access to all of the menu toolbar (I use the window drop-down menu quite often to switch models / drawings.

    In Reply to Sean Kerslake:

    One of the great strengths of ProE has always been the level of UI customization, a majority of this discussion probably would probably nothave appeared if this had been available in the Detailing UI.

    Most of us have a very small set of functions which we use 99% of the time and the rest we accept we have to hunt for on the rare occasions we use them. If this change in interface had included a 'quick access' toolbar as in MS Office it would have been an excellent interface, as it is, it just seems rushed. Adding mouse clicks is rarely a step forward,

    Sean

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    April 19, 2010

    Hi Dustin,

    We have had a small increase in un-expected exits since we have gone to WF5 at M030. What release are you on? How many users?

    Also in regards to adding icons to the toolbar; I have experiencedicons disappearing after I add them to the tool bar..specifically the close window and erased not displayed icons. They never stay on the toolbar if I move the toolbar between the pull-down menu and the ribbon, and then place the pull-down menu to the left. Do you experience this as well?

    In Reply to Dustin Hase:

    ....and more stable in drawing mode than any of the WF predecessors.

    1-Visitor
    April 19, 2010

    Interesting. We just updated from WF5 F000 to M030 (running XP64) running 2 users. I have not noticed an increase in exits between F000 and M030 (there are some however--most notably when attempting to assign BOM balloons to a view in a very large assembly). However, due to an unrelated issue with exporting to .pdf, we are being forced to run F000 installed in parallel until we can determine the cause.

    My statement regarding stability is based our switch from WF3 to WF5 F000. I cannot speak to WF4 however. I spent an hour working on a drw in WF3 with multiple unexpected fails and little progress. After I gave up on WF3, it took less than 20 minutes to finish with one fail regarding the BOM balloons.

    I have not noticed the toolbar issues you mention however. I've found them to be very stable as long as I don't let WF3 mess with them (I have WF3, WF5 F000, and WFM030 installed in parallel dirs). I used to have a similar issue in either WF1 or WF3, tho I cannot remember which.


    Hi Dustin,

    We have had a small increase in un-expected exits since we have gone to WF5 at M030. What release are you on? How many users?