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OliverGräbner17-Peridot
17-Peridot
November 17, 2010
Question

CALLOUT_FORMAT in *.hol files

  • November 17, 2010
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Hi,

I can't found information about the option DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA.

You can place this option in your *.hol file and then you can define different CALLOUT_FORMAT for different hole types.

Here is a short example:

DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA

HOLE_TYPETHREADDRILLED_DEPTHTHREAD_DEPTHCSINKCBOREEXIT_CSINKCALLOUT_FORMAT
TAPPEDYESVARVARNONONO&Screw_Size
TAPPEDYESVARVARYESNONO&Screw_Size 1
...

This is a very nice functionality. But I cant find this option in the PTC documentation. Is this a hidden option?

Thanks!

Oli

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      nico741-Visitor
      1-Visitor
      November 17, 2010

      Hi Oliver,

      This seems like a really nice option, have you tried it?

      If yes on which version of proe have you done so?

      At the moment I've got a set of standard note which I keep changing for every different type of hole very labor intensive and prone to human error.

      I look forward to learn more about this.

      Nicolas

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      OliverGräbner17-PeridotAuthor
      17-Peridot
      November 17, 2010

      Hi Nicolas,

      yes I have tried this option. It works well in WF4 and WF5. I haven't tried this for lower versions of Pro/ENGINEER.

      Attached you find a example. There are 52 different hole types defined in this file. I only have used a consecutive number at the moment. But you can try it with this file and then place the note you need in the column CALLOUT_FORMAT.

      I haven't found any documentation about this feature - and it is in deed a really nice feature. So I don't know if this also is supported for newer releases of Pro/ENGINEER.

      Regards

      Oli

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        MartinTroudt1-Visitor
        1-Visitor
        November 19, 2010

        Thank you for this. I've been trying to figure this out for a couple of weeks. The closest I got was creating separate files for tapped, counterbored and countersinked.

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        AlexDuggan1-Visitor
        1-Visitor
        January 17, 2011

        Has anyone found more information or documenation regarding this feature? I can't find any mention of it in any of the PTC documenation.

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        OliverGräbner17-PeridotAuthor
        17-Peridot
        January 18, 2011

        Hi Alex,

        I have opened a call for this (C07955386) at PTC. But but without any success. I still wait for information about this.

        DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA is a very nice feature. But I also can't find any information about this. As soon as I get information I will post it in our group (B&W Software).

        Regards

        Oli

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        PierreMALOCHET1-Visitor
        1-Visitor
        January 28, 2011

        Hi,

        I'm very intersting. This feature could be nice in the hole table.

        Best regards

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          OliverGräbner17-PeridotAuthor
          17-Peridot
          May 9, 2011

          Hello,

          today I received an email with a PDF from PTC support.

          In this PDF you find detailed information about the option DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA.

          So I think we now can use this functionality.

          Ciao

          Oli

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            PierreMALOCHET1-Visitor
            1-Visitor
            May 9, 2011

            Thank's a lot

            But i don't anderstand the way to use it ?

            best regards

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            OliverGräbner17-PeridotAuthor
            17-Peridot
            May 9, 2011

            Hi Pierre,

            in future you can define different hole notes for different hole types.

            Just add the DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA to the end of your *.hol file.

            You define the CALLOUT_FORMAT for each type of hole in a column of the table.

            I attached an example for you.

            Just copy it to your computer and set the Pro/E option "hole_parameter_file_path" to this directory. Then place a new hole and you will see how it works.

            If you still have problems please let me know.

            Regards,

            Oliver

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            colmacpro1-Visitor
            1-Visitor
            May 11, 2011

            Thank you very much for bringing this to my attention.

            I have been waiting for this since they revamped the hole tool several releases back. I spent a considerable amount of time in the past trying to get something to work. The users would end up importing a standard note from text file after the hole was created and wait till the note was shown on the drawing to fix the total quantity.

            The set-up of this is still a little hokey but it seems to work. Modifying text files in some location specified by a config.pro option is so archaic. Maybe Creo will have a single centralized GUI interface with plenty of explanatory images and previews for managing all of your settings and modeling and drafting standards.

            You still can't modify notes while you are creating the hole.

            The quantity still needs some work.

            Joe

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            mlinscott1-Visitor
            1-Visitor
            May 26, 2015

            Does anyone know if there is a way to edit the thread note call out for a cosmetic thread? editing the ISO.hol file seems to only update the formatting for notes made thought the hole tool.

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