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PeterBrown1-Visitor
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June 19, 2007
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Is it just me?

  • June 19, 2007
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Is is just me or has the volume of posts increased exponentially since the new forum was introduced? I think I am receiving a lot of duplicate posts, and they don't seem to be arriving in chronological order - I get replies before the original question.

Between 8pm Monday and 6am this morning, I received 46 posts, and many of them looked familiar. Do I have a setting wrong somewhere?

Regards

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    rich11-Visitor
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    June 19, 2007
    I feel that James is correct. Is there anyway to reply to one recipients and
    not the whole forum with out cutting and pasting their address in a separate
    email?


    I feel this would be a question for Jeff Zemsky!


    Rich Norton
    National Accounts Manager
    Advanced Technology
    (o) 877-334-7700 x240
    (f) 877-335-7700
    Rnorton@advancedtechno.com
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    TerryJohnson1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    June 19, 2007
    Because all posts now go back to the exploder.. not the individuals and if
    you reply to all.. it now goes TWICE to the exploder





    Terry Johnson
    Senior Technical Specialist
    Raytheon  -- North Texas
    972-344-5689

    Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate by Craig Puetz
    North Texas PTC/User Group  -- President





    "Hall Stevenson" <->
    06/19/2007 07:37 AM
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    It seemed very normal for me to receive messages that answer someone's
    question(s) before I rec'd the message with the original question. I know
    I wasn't the only person who saw this....

    I also had (51) messages this morning. That is very unusual and too many.
    I haven't went to the web-based forums but I do hope there's a way to turn
    off e-mail copies of messages. I'll gladly do the forum only. I think it's
    a better system anyway.

    Hall





    "Peter Brown" <->
    06/19/2007 08:24 AM

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    Is is just me or has the volume of posts increased exponentially since the
    new forum was introduced?  I think I am receiving a lot of duplicate
    posts, and they don't seem to be arriving in chronological order -  I get
    replies before the original question.
     
    Between 8pm Monday and 6am this morning, I received 46 posts, and many of
    them looked familiar.  Do I have a setting wrong somewhere?
     
    Regards



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    mikeeal1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    June 19, 2007
    greetings Jeff

    I have gotten a number of duplicates.


    TIA,
    Mike Alexander

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    dbrainsky1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    June 20, 2007
    Please correct the email problem or I'll be forced to send it to the spam folder.

    Rich Norton <rnorton@advancedtechno.com> wrote: I feel that James is correct. Is there anyway to reply to one recipients and
    not the whole forum with out cutting and pasting their address in a separate
    email?


    I feel this would be a question for Jeff Zemsky!


    Rich Norton
    National Accounts Manager
    Advanced Technology
    (o) 877-334-7700 x240
    (f) 877-335-7700
    Rnorton@advancedtechno.com
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    Anonymous
    June 20, 2007
    Jeff says that this new behavior is intentional, and is intended to make
    it hard for spam-bots to get our addresses.
    Yet, our address are in the header
    So, I don't understand how this goal is achieved.
    Regardless: Even if successful, I appears that the cure is worse than
    the disease.


    Gerry Champoux Williams International
    Lead Engineer 2280 E. West Maple Road
    Information Technology Walled Lake, MI 48390
    ' (248) 960-2816 7 (248) 960-2607
    * - <">mailto:-> *
    www.williams-int.com
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    JeffZemsky17-Peridot
    17-Peridot
    June 20, 2007
    • The issue with this is that those who wish to use it as a web forum will never see anything unless someone provides a summary. So you will also not be able to search or find the data in the future unless that recipient provides a summary.
    • People have not been good about providing Summaries
    I am open to changing the behavior however. So please think about the implications of switching the behavior and we can decide to make a change if necessary.

    Jeff Zemsky

    • PTC/User Director of Web Operations
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    krahmk1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    June 20, 2007
    Hello Jeff,
    Could you please include the original message or thread with yours
    so we know what you are talking about without having to search through
    other messages.

    Thanks,
    Karl Krahmer
    Harris Corp.
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    dgschaefer21-Topaz II
    21-Topaz II
    June 20, 2007
    "Could you please include the original message or thread with yours so
    we know what you are talking about without having to search through
    other messages."

    Karl,

    This is the problem with the hybrid forum/email list we have with the
    new exploder. If folks don't include the content of the prior post in
    their reply (the default if replying on the web site), then those only
    seeing email don't have context for the reply. However, if the reply
    contains the original post, the forum side becomes an unreadable mess
    (check some of the threads on the web site.)

    Lets give Jeff and the gang some time to sort through some of this. We
    can't expect that a big departure from the previous convention will go
    through without issues. We also can't expect things to be exactly as
    they were and to be able to use the exploder as it was. The forums are
    needed and better in many ways than the pure email list we had.

    Jeff, let me know if I can help iron out any issues. My time is
    limited, but I'd really like to see this new forum based system succeed.
    I think there's a lot of merit in having new posts emailed (both into
    the system and out), but replies not.

    Doug Schaefer
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    ehill1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    June 20, 2007
    The source of the problem in my view is the ability to post to a thread
    by sending an e-mail, and making the previous poster's e-mail address
    available. This is the opposite of they way every forum I have ever
    seen operates. It seems to me this was probably done to minimize the
    effect on the way the lists operated, but I don't think you can have
    everything. Something needs to be cut out.



    Individual mails containing responses to watched threads? Fine.
    Digests, too? Great! "Reply-All" e-mail to post to a thread? Not so
    good for the forum, the list, or the users' privacy.



    I would suggest changing the operation so that adding posts can be
    accomplished through the forum only. People will still get their mails
    and digests, they just won't be able to blindly hit "reply" to answer
    (hey, maybe that will cut down on Joe Rude's "Who Cares?" psuedo-spam
    responses to the list!). Also, remove the ability for other users to
    see a poster's e-mail address and add in private message capability to
    the forum. This will keep people's e-mails safe from spammers, and
    ensure the responses get posted to the thread for the good of archiving.



    Best Regards,
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