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why does CATIA win over Creo(Pro/Engineer) ?

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February 10, 2013
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why does CATIA win over Creo (Pro/Engineer)?

1. Is it the functionality?

2. The marketing?

3. Or both of the above?

If so how can it be countered?

17-Peridot

From where is this assumption derived?

Maybe this has some applicable references:

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/06/23/chrysler%E2%80%99s-engineering-software-shift/

At least this article includes some statistics about market share with some analysis.

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I 2nd Antonius!!!!!!!!!

Where in the WORLD do you think CATIA is preferred over PRO/E?

The only country I know where this may be practeced is in INDIA. I do not know about CHINA. CATIA in my estimation gets proliferated because it is CHEAP + there are many unlicensed copies. The students I get from ASIA & come to the US quickly abandon their pirated CATIA copies & start working with PRO/E or SOLIDWORKS!

SOLIDWORKS seems to be the preferred package because the learning curve is not so drastic as for PRO/E.

So qualify OR quantify your statement because you are coming our of LEFT FIELD!!!!!!!

I do not represent PTC I just have used their product & others such as ANSYS, NASTRAN, & SOLIDWORKS. I also teach engineering at a state institutional university.

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15-Moonstone

CATIA is surely not cheap...it is roughly double the price of Pro/Engineer.

just look at the results of the last quarter...

http://gfxspeak.com/2013/02/07/dassault-systemes-tops-e3-billion-revenue-in-2012/ -dassault

http://schnitgercorp.com/2013/02/04/ptc-reports-lackluster-fq1-focuses-on-portfolio/- PTC

17-Peridot

Rohit Rajan wrote:
CATIA is surely not cheap...it is roughly double the price of Pro/Engineer.
just look at the results of the last quarter...
http://gfxspeak.com/2013/02/07/dassault-systemes-tops-e3-billion-revenue-in-2012/-dassault
http://schnitgercorp.com/2013/02/04/ptc-reports-lackluster-fq1-focuses-on-portfolio/- PTC

There is some apples and oranges comparison here... The one for Dessault is for 2012 results and the one for PTC is 2010. The figures and statistics for both are still quite impressive. I still don't understand the reason for the original post. I just see two players in the same market. Each wins some and each looses some. It is the nature of the beast.

When it comes to corporate choices between one brand vs. the other, there are more bean counters making the decisions than actual users. If the users are lucky, someone will take into account the cost of conversion. But in general, you can pretty much bet that the Euro attitude is "buy local" where they will favor a Euro supplier. Very similar to the USA slogan to "Buy American"... but from experience, Europeans are much more dedicated to their brands.

All these systems that have been around for better than a decade, maybe closer to two decades, and have become "engrained" in the very large enterprise solutions. Mega-bucks have been spent on customization and add-ons. The more a company invests, the less likely they are willing to change. If you really look at the history of both companies, you might find that Dessault was in the market earlier with a more complete solution, and their growth reflects this in their total seat count and gross revenues.

And back to the point of the two linked references; have a look back at the 2010 timeframe in the financial graphs... Dessault wasn't doing very well either and PTC was actually kickin' their bumms.

A real study of the question would make for a good financial article in some zine, but for us to guess based on a few disconnected data sources is purely speculation.

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All the modules accept drawing are good in proe as I feel.