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nrollins2-Explorer
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May 27, 2014
Question

more fun with holes... hmm.

  • May 27, 2014
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So,



What would be a possible reason that my hole note tab is grayed out? It is
a "simple" hole, thru all with a c'bore. (NOT assy level.)



I would like the drawing to have the note on it automatically so I don't
have to create it.



-Nate






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DeanLong1-Visitor
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May 27, 2014

Nathan,


You have hit on one of the longest running "Why's" in the PTC saga. In my, close to 27, years on this software, "why's" have existed with Pro.


I could spend the entire day reflecting and writing all them, but it would be of no value. I am sorry to say that I do not know WHY the note tab is grayed out for a simple hole. It would seem logical to have something like this at your fingertips. Why, you ask? I envision a scenario like this: while the hole tool was being developed years ago, someone asked, should the note tab be visible and useable in Simple Hole. The answer was probably "Heck no Goober, it's just a hole. It's just a round feature that will have a shown dimension available on the drawing. What more do those CAD Monkies need?". While thatmight bea good answer from a text book standpoint...I.E. a non-working, green engineer that assumes it's all easy on shop floor. Not always the case, Mr. Graduate Engineer.


What if one needed to specify running a de-burring tool on that Simple hole, or to mark the hole with paint? That embedded note seems really useful and nice to have it all in one tool. Maybe that makes too much sense.


But, then again.....if they didn't want the Note to be used, then WHY is the tab still there in the first place? Why?????

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    nrollins2-ExplorerAuthor
    2-Explorer
    May 27, 2014
    And Why can I not access the note's properties from the drawing? Why do I
    have to open the part and change the note (excuse me - annotation) there?



    (did that dude just call me a CAD monkey? Goober.)


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    JWayman1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    May 27, 2014
    I haven't used the embedded notes for years, but as I remember, in WF2 at least, they weren't associative, so changing a hole parameter didn't result in the note updating.
    Is that still the case in Creo 2.0?

    If the answer is 'No', I just might start using them when we finally migrate.


    John

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    BrianTaylor8-Gravel
    8-Gravel
    May 27, 2014
    Issues like this have been around since I started with pro Rev 17. I not
    beating on PTC but this seems to be the way they operate, write just
    enough code to satisfy the ability to call it "new functionality" and move
    on. This community amongst others has been asking for this tool to be
    adjusted in one manor or another for years now. Every year or so another
    thread like this gets started we all jump on board and rant about it
    myself included, but nothing happens. My biggest gripe centers around the
    fact that PTC does not listen to it's user base on simple little things
    like this. My personal angst centers around the GD&T GUI, but that is
    another rant for another time.


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    BillChapman13-Aquamarine
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    May 27, 2014
    Right click the hole note in the drawing and select "Edit Value" and you can change the hole note in drawing mode. Works in Creo Parametric 2.0 at least.

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    BrianTaylor8-Gravel
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    May 27, 2014
    This works in WF4 as well


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    nrollins2-ExplorerAuthor
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    May 27, 2014
    Bill,



    Thanks! This is a nice tip - and I should take my own advice - ("RMB
    everywhere and READ all the choices")



    -Nate




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