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21-Topaz I
21-Topaz I
February 26, 2025
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Find the area of rectangular ABCD. Green line shows half of a circle.

  • February 26, 2025
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Green shows circle of half.

Best answer by AlanStevens

My solution attached; though, as I only have Prime Express which doesn't have symbolics, I did it "by hand".  

Be nice to see a solution in which Prime does the solving!

 

Alan

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19-Tanzanite
February 26, 2025

My solution attached; though, as I only have Prime Express which doesn't have symbolics, I did it "by hand".  

Be nice to see a solution in which Prime does the solving!

 

Alan

25-Diamond I
February 26, 2025

@AlanStevens wrote:

My solution attached; though, as I only have Prime Express which doesn't have symbolics, I did it "by hand".  

Be nice to see a solution in which Prime does the solving!

 

Alan


Here you are:

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Unfortunately Primes symbolics does not know that the cosine of an angle from 0 to 90° is always positive.

We have explicitly tell the program that cos(theta)>0 to get the desired solution.

 

A strange effect occurs when we add AB>0 to the assume modifier.

Werner_E_1-1740605323681.png

The result now is a nested(!) matrix. I consider this being a bug in two respects.

Firstly, the second solution does not take into account the constraint r>0 and secondly, if there were two pairs of solutions, these would have to be output in the form of a 2x2 matrix and not in this nested form.

23-Emerald IV
February 26, 2025

Another handwork result.

 

Luc

25-Diamond I
February 26, 2025

My approach is similar to Luc's

There is no use for Mathcad's solve capabilities...

 

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19-Tanzanite
February 26, 2025

@Werner_E wrote:

There is no use for Mathcad's solve capabilities...


I am wondering if there is a such a math software tool that can handle this with a solve capabilities or an automated routine (I think no). I think the only way is as solutions posted already (more with pen and paper)...

25-Diamond I
February 26, 2025

@Cornel wrote:

@Werner_E wrote:

There is no use for Mathcad's solve capabilities...


I am wondering if there is a such a math software tool that can handle this with a solve capabilities or an automated routine (I think no). I think the only way is as solutions posted already (more with pen and paper)...


Well, I think you would need an AI interface that can read and correctly interpret specification texts and can also extract the relevant information from the attached drawings and then sets up the math accordingly. Challenging ...

14-Alexandrite
February 26, 2025

Here is mine.  I also included a plot where the user can vary the angle with a slider.  The proof comes later in the sheet.

 

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ttokoro
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21-Topaz I
February 26, 2025

Thanks all. This is also 12 year's kids puzzle. So without using cos(θ) it is also solved as below.

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t.t.
23-Emerald I
February 28, 2025

It's possible to do it in Prime Express, using the root function to find the angle for the radius.