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11-Garnet
July 10, 2017
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  • July 10, 2017
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Hi

Please help me to find the h value using operator and solve h. I got 4 answers . How can I select the absolute value from the answers.

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Best answer by Werner_E

What I see in the pictures is that in the first case (=15 mm) is that for values of b greater than 2,2 m the solve block returns the negative solution from time to time. The solution returned depends on the guess value. fortunately in your case its easy - simply chose a greater value as guess. I have chosen 5m and all seems to work OK.Pic1.png

 For the second case I can't duplicate your resultPic2.png

 Fortunately simply enlarging the guess value seems to cure it here, too:Pic3.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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25-Diamond I
July 10, 2017

@ldante wrote:

Hi

Please help me to find the h value using operator and solve h. I got 4 answers . How can I select the absolute value from the answers.

 


Four solutions seem OK for me for that equation. How many solutions did you expect?

 

And what do you mean by "select absolute value from the answers"?

 

Do you mean how to select the postive of the four (if there is any or only one).

Answer: You cant, as we don't know anything about the other variables WL, b, E, Ixx, mm in use. They could be positive, negative, non-real and all that would change the output. Also the relatives magnitudes of the variables matter. So Prime can't decide, which of the four solutions is postive or even real.

 

ldante11-GarnetAuthor
11-Garnet
July 10, 2017

One solution only  is fine

 

Can I have a solution also if this is the case ?

 

solution 2.PNGother condition

25-Diamond I
July 10, 2017

@ldante wrote:

One solution only  is fine


But a polynomial  equation of fourth order has four solutions - thats math. Xou can't change that 😉

 


 Can I have a solution also if this is the case ?

Guess, no.

Maybe in a solve block when all other variables are given, too.

 

1-Visitor
July 10, 2017

Hi Idante,

 

To get absolute values you must define all variables for instance E:=2.1*10^5N/mm², etc.

Then we have four solutions which must be discussed according to clarify what result is practicable and realistic.

 

What you found is a complete symbolic solution with four results for an equation of 4th degree.

10-07-2017 16-23-09.jpg 

Hope the attachement helps.