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Pipe Feature has left the building...!

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January 8, 2014
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HELP! Pulling my few remaining thinning gray hair out in bunches... my first 4 hours in Creo2 coming from WF5

Remember the good old pipe feature, as in #Insert #Advanced #Pipe ?

I love this feature, have been using it a lot, kinda like sweep, except you dont have to define a section sketch, and you don't have to round corners in your trajectory curve, it does those automatically, LOVELY.

Problem is I can't find it in Creo2, after some sniffing around I typed "pipe" into the command search, and there she was, however usually when you hover your mouse over a result in the command search, it shows you where in the menu tabs to find the command. Not in this case...

Is PTC stealthily nudging this feature slowly towards the back door with a grubby boot before "losing" it in "creo next point 0" hoping that we won't notice...? Does Pro/SHIPBUILD or Pro/COMPOSITE ring a bell...?

Please someone back me up on this one, prove me wrong and show me where she's gone!

Norm

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MikeFoster

10-Marble

I think part of the problem is that the feature is called a "Pipe". PTC probably assumes that the proportion of their users working with plumbing is small so to reduce clutter they took pipes out of the GUI.

In reality there is likely a rather large number of users like us who use pipes for all kinds of things having nothing to do with plumbing such as electrical wire, wire rope, cables, etc...

Any time you need an easy to construct feature that has a round cross section and has to be is routed this way and that around corners and bends the pipe feature is the way to go; much easier than sweeps and blends.

PTC ought to figure out how to get good usage data for the various functions before deciding whether or not to retire or hide them.

Mike Foster

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mlocascio

1-Visitor

Here! Here! Mike Foster. You have probably said what many of us are thinking.

> On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:59 AM, "Foster, Mike (Goleta)" <-> wrote:
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> I think part of the problem is that the feature is called a "Pipe". PTC probably assumes that the proportion of their users working with plumbing is small so to reduce clutter they took pipes out of the GUI.
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> In reality there is likely a rather large number of users like us who use pipes for all kinds of things having nothing to do with plumbing such as electrical wire, wire rope, cables, etc…
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> Any time you need an easy to construct feature that has a round cross section and has to be is routed this way and that around corners and bends the pipe feature is the way to go; much easier than sweeps and blends.
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> PTC ought to figure out how to get good usage data for the various functions before deciding whether or not to retire or hide them.
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> Mike Foster
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kimndave9

1-Visitor

I thought the complaint was that the pipe feature is unavailable for addition to the Ribbon.

A better analogy to Excel is if PTC were to put Relations, Family Table, and Program on a tab with a config option to show or hide the tab. What PTC did is as if MS removed the Statistics functions from the functions list, suggesting they no longer existed, and requiring users who knew about them to remember the function names.

It is refreshing to see that PTC is working on a command line interface. No Pipe icon? Type Pipe on the command line.

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BenLoosli

23-Emerald III

"PTC is not interested in how engineers work. They are interested in getting engineers to work PTC's way."

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ArnoldCollett

12-Amethyst

You can add the “Pipe” command to the Toolbar or Ribbon;
The first picture shows adding it to the Toolbar and the second picture shows adding it to the Ribbon (create your own tab to add it to), it just shows up as a green ball;

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Thanks,
Arnold Collett

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rreifsnyder

15-Moonstone

Wow, sorry I've been behind on my exploder emails. Piping is very much alive and well. Go into an assembly (Creo2 build M060), and go to the Applications tab. Piping is in there along with cabling, welding, mechanism, etc.
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It even has its own ribbon.
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I think all the responses show how little piping is actually used. NO ONE using piping could step up and answer this? I'm surprised no one from PTC stepped up either. PTC does a lot of things that might be deserving of criticism, but this certainly doesn't seem to be one of them.

Rob Reifsnyder
Mechanical Design Engineer/ Producibility Engineer / Components Engineer / Pro/E SME / Pro/E Librarian
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kimndave9

1-Visitor

The discussion is about the pipe Feature, not the routed systems module Piping.

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BillChapman

13-Aquamarine

Rob,

The piping you refer to requires special licensing to use. The pipe feature discussed below was available with the basic modeling package.

Bill Chapman
Email: -<">mailto:->
Tel: 708-496-3100 | Cell: 708-205-5705

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mlocascio

1-Visitor

Actually I am more surprised that too many users GET to use the piping module. It's kind of like a privilege at most companies. In fact, piping is on my dream list.

Have you ever ran a section of pipe or hose using the pipe command and have the assembly constraints change on you?

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