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IvanGasparini10-Marble
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December 21, 2020
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How to delete parameters from Notebook files (ex Layout)?

  • December 21, 2020
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Dear users,

I am very new of PTC Creo (in the past I used other CADs) but actually I am using Creo 3.0 M050.

I am designing an assembly with the Top/down technique: the components and sub-assemblies are driven by parameters defined in a Notebook file (in Creo 3.0 it is still called Layout file).

Obviously, during the work, I did some tests and now my Notebook file presents obsolete parameters.

These parameters are no longer used in any part file, but I can not delete them (in the Tools ------> Parameters menù of the Notebook file).

 

If I try to delete a parameter that is used in a part (called for instance "xxx") of the main assembly, I get a message that that parameter refers to part xxx (rightly!).

If I try to delete an "old" parameter, the message reports that this parameter refers to the Notebook file and so I can delete it; but this does not seem logical to me, because it is a redundancy.

 

How can I then delete the parameters defined in a Notebook file? Obviously, not being used in any relationship, I could also keep them, but I would like to have a clean and tidy file!

 

Thank you so much for the help,
IG

Best answer by IvanGasparini

l solved in this way:

 

1) I created a new file notebook in the folder of the assemblies, parts etc;

2) I copied and pasted from the old layout, respectively, all parameters and all relations in the new notebook. At this point the parameters become "free" and can be deleted.

3) The new notebook should then be renamed to the same name as the old one (which must be removed, before deleting it permanently I moved it to a support folder and I checked that the parts/assemblies declared when opened retrieve in session the new layout).

 

It is not the optimal solution, but in this way you can get a final layout file without the parameters of the deleted parts.

Alternatively, if you have Windchill you can use it to solve this problem (but I do not have the license).

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tbraxton
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tbraxton22-Sapphire II
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December 22, 2020

Without seeing the files it is hard to say exactly what the problem may be. I suspect it is due to a dependency driven by a declared parameter in the layout. When you declare the notebook to a model then that model is then a child of the layout. If you undeclare the layout in each part referencing it that may let you delete the parameters. You may need to undeclare multiple or all of the parts driven by the layout to delete the parameters. You can declare the layout again for each model after you delete the unwanted parameters.

 

If this does not work I would need more information (post some of the files) to figure it out.

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IvanGasparini10-MarbleAuthor
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December 24, 2020

Dear @tbraxton ,

thank you for your reply.

I had already tried your hint and it does not work undeclaring the part where the old parameter was used.

I would not like not to undeclare all the parts of the assembly and then declare them again with the notebook; there are so many components!

Unfortunately, I cannot upload the assembly here because it is confidential. However, I attacched a very simple assembly in which the same problem is present: the side of the two parallelepipeds was initially defined with the parameter "A" and then a new parameter "C" was created to replace "A". Also in this case, it is not possible to delete the parameter "A".

 

Thank you for your feedback.

Best regards,

tbraxton
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tbraxton22-Sapphire II
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December 24, 2020

It is related to the fact that you have a table in the layout that has this parameter as an entry in a cell.

 

Try this, I did it in Creo 4 and it worked.

 

Open the layout

Delete the top row of the table (containing the parameter A)

Open the parameter tools and delete A

Save the layout

 

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IvanGasparini10-MarbleAuthorAnswer
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March 7, 2021

l solved in this way:

 

1) I created a new file notebook in the folder of the assemblies, parts etc;

2) I copied and pasted from the old layout, respectively, all parameters and all relations in the new notebook. At this point the parameters become "free" and can be deleted.

3) The new notebook should then be renamed to the same name as the old one (which must be removed, before deleting it permanently I moved it to a support folder and I checked that the parts/assemblies declared when opened retrieve in session the new layout).

 

It is not the optimal solution, but in this way you can get a final layout file without the parameters of the deleted parts.

Alternatively, if you have Windchill you can use it to solve this problem (but I do not have the license).

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PI_613115410-Marble
10-Marble
December 25, 2021

Creo 8: New Layout, Create parameter... not possibile to delete it any more. Program error? 

 

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    IvanGasparini10-MarbleAuthor
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    September 26, 2022

    Sorry @PI_6131154, I have never used Creo 8 so I cannot help you. I suggest you open a new thread referring to this one (maybe with a direct link) and explain that the solution which I found for Creo 3.0 does not work with version 8.0.

     

     

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