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hvaradharajan-21-Visitor
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April 18, 2016
Question

OIR for New Version

  • April 18, 2016
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Hi all,

When I create a New View Version for a Part, I want to set it to follow a different LC Template (preset in OIR) , Now this seems not possible. It takes the LC template from the OIR of the Parts default View (Design).

What I want to achieve is to have one  LC template for the Design View and whole another LC template for Manufacturing View.

Isn´t this a fairly easy requirement and that's easy to achieve by OIR? Or is there any other means?

Thanks & Regards

Hari

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doehr1-Visitor
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April 18, 2016

I actually had a lengthy support ticket with PTC on this one because we're in the same boat, we want to control which State the new view version shows up. Here's a summary of what we discovered:

  • Different View Versions are still guaranteed to be Parts, i.e. with the same lifecycle template. The only viable option they suggested would be to define part Sub-Types for each desired view as completely new entities, you could then give them unique OIRs (which is a bit of an overkill suggestion)
  • The New View Version function uses the Revise transaction on the Lifecycle Template of the original part in its current state to determine which State the new view starts in
  • I got the tech support guy to really dig into the server to find the specific place it is defined in the code for New View Version to use Revise. He did find it, it is extremely deep level and interconnected to a bunch of stuff, it would be possible for them to customize it for us (at a heavy cost) but PTC would not officially support any heavy customizations like this. So if stuff broke, we'd be on our own.

With all of the above we decided not to bother doing the customizations and just bit the bullet on it.

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KK_939717610-Marble
10-Marble
January 30, 2023

did not try using one of the post event listner for wtpart.to set the state after its created or a prestore listner to set it before its stored.

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Pascal_Brunet14-Alexandrite
14-Alexandrite
January 30, 2023

Hello @hvaradharajan-2 

 

yes it is documented here: https://www.ptc.com/en/support/article/CS196398

 

BR,

Pascal

 

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    KK_939717610-Marble
    10-Marble
    January 30, 2023

    ok great to know that...

    I thought OIRs were not being applied for new view (release 11.1) based on other articles https://www.ptc.com/en/support/article/CS196398 & https://www.ptc.com/en/support/article/CS57621

    but looks like the it evaluates based on your article..  Thanks.

    while setting state is not my requirement, I was looking for info if OIRs applies or not before deciding to go the listener routes.

    I was looking to set the revision label value.

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    Pascal_Brunet14-Alexandrite
    14-Alexandrite
    January 31, 2023

    Hello @KK_9397176 

     

    I advise you to try the OIR solution. We implemented it in my former company and it worked fine. 

     

    I advise you to avoid multiple listeners because it requires Java code.

    Java code is a source of problems: additional workload, money cost if you need external partner, bugs, side effects, regressions, user complaints, deprecation of the code,.. Use standard solutions as much as possible.

     

    PTC strategy is to migrate Windchill in SaaS platform. If you have too much Java code, your system is not SaaS ready and "decustomization" is required.  https://www.ptc.com/en/blogs/plm/can-you-customize-saas-plm 

     

    BR,

    Pascal

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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