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October 1, 2012
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About PRO-PIPING

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I am NEW user to PRo-PIPING

may i know how to create mcat file?

And how to setup project? creating library?

Please Help me


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BrianMartin13-Aquamarine
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October 1, 2012

Regrettably, your question is unanswerable in this format. Your question is far too complex and the answer far too intricate to offer here. To draw a parallel, you may as well have asked: "Please tell me the entire history of the world... thank you!"

Your only real options are:

  • Read the help files for Pro/PIPING (Spec Driven if you want to work on mcat files)
  • Take the PTC University training
  • Hire someone who already understands how to set this up

As a side note, if you decide to hire someone, let me know who you're considering. There are several companies out there who specialize in such things. There's one company I really dislike but the others are decent.

I realize this is a dodge to your original question- but this topic is hopelessly more convoluted, complex, and tricky than you'd ever imagine.

PTC does provide you with a 'stock' set of catalog files with each installation of Wildfire/Creo. Even with these and the help files, deciphering how these files work together to create a spec driven piping catalog is a tough task. If you have more specific questions, please ask them. Perhaps we can help in small bits and pieces to get you where you want.

Thanks!

-Brian

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    visu1-VisitorAuthor
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    October 2, 2012

    Dear Brain:

    Actually we are one of very pouplar water plant company, we never used pro-e to design water plant, we have used aveva PDMS.

    I am the ony user to whole company to work on pro-e, i just know to work in part, surface, Sheetmetal and assembely. I am not expert, I have knowledge to work on those platform.

    Actually now we have planned to arrange training regarding pro-piping, and basic of pro-e, like how creating parts and working on assembely etc.

    my question is? if we arrange training class from PTC university, they will teach us about how to setting a new project library and configuration option for part, sheetmetal,assembely, piping? how to work on those platforms.

    Because in local markets they just know to work at user level, they dosen't know much deep they and have not teached to any peoples yet.

    Then tell me a good trainer about piping and basic learning of pro-e, could you please refer us, we are from INDIA,Chennai. If the trainer was in abroad also no issues, my organisation can arrange class, if the package is affordable to organisation.

    Thank you

    Regards

    Viswanathan.k

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    BrianMartin13-Aquamarine
    13-Aquamarine
    October 2, 2012

    Hi Viswanathan,

    To be perfectly honest, no... PTC University will not be enough to suit your needs. PTC's classes on piping do touch upon the catalog files but they do not cover them in sufficient depth to help you set them up on your own. While I'm sure PTC would happily supply someone to help you with this, you'll be paying accordingly for such a high level of support.

    If you're in India, there are probably several firms that could help you. You'll be paying them a hefty fee, too... but likely much, much less than someone from Europe or the US. Setting up the configuration and catalog files for "Spec Driven" piping in Pro/E is tricky. Once you get the hang of it, things start to make sense. But there are many details and you really do need someone with experience to help you.

    I did this kind of consulting/setup work for a New Jersey company. We set up Routed Systems Designer, Spec Driven Piping, and ISOGEN ... in one week. We didn't quite finish everything in that week but we got very close. Our classes ran 12-13 hours per day. This was definitely a "custom" class and I believe the charge was ~ $8,000.

    It sounds like you're after something like this:

    • Complete Pro/E Basic Training + Detailing (Drawings)
    • Advanced Part/Advanced Assembly Training
    • Pro/PIPING Training
    • Setup and configuration of Spec Driven Piping

    That's about three weeks worth of work but if you're ambitious you might be able to do it in two weeks. If all of your people are starting completely from scratch, then you might be better off taking it a bit slower. If I were quoting a job like that, I'd quote $20,000 total for up to 10 students (plus expenses). I have no idea how that translates in India. Maybe that's really high in your country. This would include all training plus setup and configuration. There's quite a bit of work involved... my advice would be to be very specific in what you're looking for. Solicit quotes from reliable, reputable firms, and try to get a detailed offer in writing.

    Feel free to write back if there's anything we can do to help you on your way.

    Thanks and good luck!

    -Brian

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