22-Sapphire II

Question

Are you kidding me???

Forum|Forum|7 years ago
January 11, 2019
5 replies
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I just looked at what it would cost to get a seat of creo, and I found the absolutely outrageous quote for "Design Advanced Plus" package for $10,599....for only a YEAR license! WTF??? I remember not long ago when you could flat out BUY a license for around $4k. I can't afford almost $11k for only a year's worth of use, that's absurd.

Anyone want to sell a used copy of creo 3 or a computer that has it installed as part of "downsizing your business"?

No wonder Solidworks has been mopping up the floor with creo sales for years. Just when their pricing was getting competitive with S/W, they went back to the old school ways when it was, what, $15k/seat? But at least in those days, you actually BOUGHT the software, not simply rented it for a year. What a total rip-off.

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BenLoosli

23-Emerald III

Do you need all the functionality that comes with that level of design package?

I am guessing that it also includes a seat of WIndchill.

I asked for a quote 5 weeks ago to change from maintenance on 10 seats to maintenance on 2 seats and 8 subscriptions. Still waiting on PTC to issue the quote and my maintenance expires the end of this month. I am thinking they do not want us to do this because it will result in a loss of revenue so they are stalling.

Patriot_1776

Author

22-Sapphire II

'Sup Ben!

This would just be for a PC at home to work on some personal designs. I wouldn't need Windchill, but I would need the advanced surfacing because I'd be designing plastic parts. When I looked some years ago I could pick up a package for a reasonable price, and I DO think the software is superior to S/W and have said that on many occasions here and on the S/W forums (much to their chagrin 🙂 ). But just when their pricing became reasonable, they do this and scr3w their customers.

And therein lies the crux of the problem. I understand and support Capitalism, but this seems to me to just be GREED.....

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Chris3

21-Topaz I

If it is truly for personal use only they have student license that you can get for free.

https://www.ptc.com/en/academic-program/products/free-software

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TomU

23-Emerald IV

Something doesn't see right with your pricing. List price for a subscription of 'Creo Engineer II with Advanced Assembly' is only $5,360 and that probably has more capability than you will need for use at home. (Includes Windchill.) I think list Essentials Plus w/PDMLink is around $3,500/yr.

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TomU

23-Emerald IV

Actually, looks like the price is right for Design Advanced Plus. The question is whether that is the right package or not. Scroll to the bottom of this page for pricing: https://novedge.com/ptc/products/14079

Good information here as well: https://eacpds.com/new-ptc-creo-software-packages/

Patriot_1776

Author

22-Sapphire II

Hey Tom!

To get the "Advanced Surfacing & Additive Manufacturing" you need the Design Advanced Plus, and I would need to do surfacing on this project of mine. I can't use a "student" license because the files are incompatible with anything, and I'd need to make STEP models for tooling.

Really, all I need to do is RENT a system for a month or so to complete the project. I mean I could HIRE a company to do it for me, but I want to do the design myself, run it by some Engineers for FEA and and bring it into production.

$6K to RENT for a year (instead of BUY) is still absurd, but doable but the package (Design Advanced) probably won't do what I need.

SRSLY PTC?

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bbrejcha

15-Moonstone

Looks to me someone made a typo. That cost was the cost for purchase AAX in the past. With the new pricing structure it's billed per year and quite a bit less. Prob about 1.5k per year. Anyways I want my software to cost a lot ... makes me worth more 😉

Bart Brejcha

Design-engine.com

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TomU

23-Emerald IV

I don't think it's a typo. Those same numbers are all over the place.

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bbrejcha

15-Moonstone

We have two seats of AAX and neither are that high. We do'nt sell software either and I can be corrected (happens seldom) what part of the country are you in? Whats your email address?

Bart Brejcha

Design-engine.com

Patriot_1776

Author

22-Sapphire II

Soooo, here's a recent quote for some S/W licenses for comparison.....

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mcestnik

14-Alexandrite

License Capabilities for better understanding - unofficial!

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STEVEG

21-Topaz I

They actually have added features to Creo over the years. A few years ago we had 1 floating license of Manikin for a manufacturing guy. The next year they added Manikin to the licenses and now all our licenses has it. There are other modules as well but I don't remember what they are.

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dscherer

1-Visitor

Just ran across this as I was searching for some other information, and you probably have it figured out now, but for future reference for everyone on this thread; you can buy a base license of Creo, and add any extension "a la carte". You do NOT need to buy one of the packages if you do not require all of the functionality within that package.

FYI - Your friendly VAR - TriStar