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nhanratty1-Visitor
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August 23, 2013
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Creo 2.0 M050 Graphics Performance

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Ok I appreciate that there are a lot of variables when it comes to graphics performance in Creo...drivers etc.


But we have just recently switched from Wildfire 4 to Creo 2 (m050) and have a range of what I believe are top end PCs (Lenovo D20's, D30's, Dell T3500's), each with at least 8GB of RAM and all have high end nVidia Quadro graphics cards (5000's, 4800's, K4000's etc.)


We have seen a noticable drop in spin/pan/zoom performance when working in our larger assemblies 2000+ parts in comparison to Wildfire 4. Turning off options such as 'spin_with _part_entities' and 'spin_with_silhouettes' has helped a bit with spinning but pan and zoom are still very sluggish.


Our engineers are having to use the Temporary shade to be able to work at a reasonable pace.


We 'rolled back' a graphics driver on one PC to a supported version based on PTCs website but it made no difference.


Also the new measure tool takes a few seconds to activate when working in a large assembly.


So I'm just wondering if anybody else out there has noticed similar drops in graphics performance and if you were able to do anything to improve it?


Thanks for any and all replies...I'll post back whatever I get.


Regards,


Neal


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ocorten-212-Amethyst
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September 4, 2013
Hi David, and others,

The Order Independent Transparency (OIT) was an exclusive option for AMD. But only for one year.
I was told by an NVIDIA guy during the conference in Anaheim that this option should soon be available with NVIDIA cards and Creo 2.0 if you have the latest drivers.
But up till now I still haven't seen it (Creo 2.0 M070 + latest NVIDIA driver for Quadro FX 2800M). Still only Stippled or Blended.


The performance issue you describe is also shown with the OCUS Benchmark comparison chart:: comparison of Wildfire 4.0, Creo Elements/Pro 5.0, Creo Parametric 1.0 and Creo Parametric 2.0 with an editted v6 benchmark.
(Click on one of the graphs to go to the excel file.)

Below a screenshot of the 64bit WF4 vs Creo 2.0 comparison sheet.
You can see that, although overall graphics performance is better (-32%), the very advanced shaded spin is much slower (+81%).
In the very advanced shaded spin test the transparency is set to blended.
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dgallup1-Visitor
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September 5, 2013

Thanks Olaf. Sounds like PTC has to write something into their code as well:


According to Brian Thompson, Vice President,PTCCreo Product Management at PTC … “PTC plans to supportOrder Independent Transparency (OIT)inPTCCreo 2.0 for NVIDIA GPUs — targeted for aPTCCreo 2.0 Maintenance release in the second half of calendar 2013.” - See more at: http://creo.ptc.com/2013/08/08/ptc-creo-2-0-order-independent-transparency-support-for-nvidia-gpus/#sthash.CnH4RPKC.dpuf

According to Brian Thompson, Vice President,PTCCreo Product Management at PTC … “PTC plans to supportOrder Independent Transparency (OIT)inPTCCreo 2.0 for NVIDIA GPUs — targeted for aPTCCreo 2.0 Maintenance release in the second half of calendar 2013.” - See more at: http://creo.ptc.com/2013/08/08/ptc-creo-2-0-order-independent-transparency-support-for-nvidia-gpus/#sthash.CnH4RPKC.dpuf
According to Brian Thompson, Vice President,PTCCreo Product Management at PTC … “PTC plans to supportOrder Independent Transparency (OIT)inPTCCreo 2.0 for NVIDIA GPUs — targeted for aPTCCreo 2.0 Maintenance release in the second half of calendar 2013.” - See more at: http://creo.ptc.com/2013/08/08/ptc-creo-2-0-order-independent-transparency-support-for-nvidia-gpus/#sthash.CnH4RPKC.dpuf


According to Brian Thompson, Vice President,PTCCreo Product Management at PTC … “PTC plans to supportOrder Independent Transparency (OIT)inPTCCreo 2.0 for NVIDIA GPUs — targeted for aPTCCreo 2.0 Maintenance release in the second half of calendar 2013.” - See more at: http://creo.ptc.com/2013/08/08/ptc-creo-2-0-order-independent-transparency-support-for-nvidia-gpus/#sthash.CnH4RPKC.dpuf

http://creo.ptc.com/2013/08/08/ptc-creo-2-0-order-independent-transparency-support-for-nvidia-gpus/


Anybody know which build this will be?



In Reply to Olaf Corten:


Hi David, and others,

The Order Independent Transparency (OIT) was an exclusive option for AMD. But only for one year.
I was told by an NVIDIA guy during the conference in Anaheim that this option should soon be available with NVIDIA cards and Creo 2.0 if you have the latest drivers.
But up till now I still haven't seen it (Creo 2.0 M070 + latest NVIDIA driver for Quadro FX 2800M). Still only Stippled or Blended.


The performance issue you describe is also shown with the OCUS Benchmark comparison chart:: comparison of Wildfire 4.0, Creo Elements/Pro 5.0, Creo Parametric 1.0 and Creo Parametric 2.0 with an editted v6 benchmark.
(Click on one of the graphs to go to the excel file.)

Below a screenshot of the 64bit WF4 vs Creo 2.0 comparison sheet.
You can see that, although overall graphics performance is better (-32%), the very advanced shaded spin is much slower (+81%).
In the very advanced shaded spin test the transparency is set to blended.
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