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garytinker1-Visitor
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July 24, 2014
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creo 3.0 Intelligent Fastener Extension, can we add new parameters to the file?

  • July 24, 2014
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ok loving the new lite Intelligent Fastener Extension, but

 

what i want to know is how do i add new parameters to the entire family?

i know i can add them at the part level every time i use them

but i want them to be default parameters and not something i have to muck on with every time.

 

for example

ASSY1=BUW_NAME

ASSY2 = BUW_SIZE

MATERIAL = PTC_MATERIAL_NAME

MAT_DESC1 = BUW_NAME

MAT_DESC2 = BUW_SIZE

 

 

these are parameters that i use in all of my start parts so that they work with my default bom

 

also having the part name in lowercase is a bit crap as well but that's minor

 

so where is the part or spreadsheet or what ever it is

 

ideas?

Best answer by TomU

Short answer, NO. Long answer below.

All the models used are stored in the following location:

<loadpoint>Creo 3.0\F000\Common Files\afx\parts

You can drill down deeper to see specific fasteners. For example, Holokrome screws are here:

<loadpoint>Creo 3.0\F000\Common Files\afx\parts\screws_and_pins\screws\HoloKrome

From a cursory look, it would seem that a part without a family table is loaded, then the family table itself is created from the .dat file, then finally the specific family table instance is saved as a stand alone part for use in your assembly. This whole technique is NOT going to play well with a PDM system.

I opened one of the parts and added my own parameters. Unfortunately, as soon as you attempt to place a new fastener with the modified part you get a pop up saying you can't use it.

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There seems to be some pretty touchy file checking that is making sure you haven't changed anything.

One more weird fact, I found it fascinating that the part I modified (hk-shcs-unrc.prt) was last saved in 2004 using Pro/e version 2001. Pretty old parts.

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TomU23-Emerald IVAnswer
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July 24, 2014

Short answer, NO. Long answer below.

All the models used are stored in the following location:

<loadpoint>Creo 3.0\F000\Common Files\afx\parts

You can drill down deeper to see specific fasteners. For example, Holokrome screws are here:

<loadpoint>Creo 3.0\F000\Common Files\afx\parts\screws_and_pins\screws\HoloKrome

From a cursory look, it would seem that a part without a family table is loaded, then the family table itself is created from the .dat file, then finally the specific family table instance is saved as a stand alone part for use in your assembly. This whole technique is NOT going to play well with a PDM system.

I opened one of the parts and added my own parameters. Unfortunately, as soon as you attempt to place a new fastener with the modified part you get a pop up saying you can't use it.

6.PNG

There seems to be some pretty touchy file checking that is making sure you haven't changed anything.

One more weird fact, I found it fascinating that the part I modified (hk-shcs-unrc.prt) was last saved in 2004 using Pro/e version 2001. Pretty old parts.

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garytinker1-VisitorAuthor
1-Visitor
July 24, 2014

drat.

so i might be able to change them if i have the full version of ifx?...

i can see the conversation now,

"hi cfo i would like to get x amount of licences that let me draw bolts in our cad package"

" what have you been doing in the past "

"well we could draw bolts but it took slightly more time"

" so why do you need this new thing then?"

"its faster and does a lot of the work for me"

"how much it it"

"its $xxxx.xx per seat"

"ಠ_ಠ"

"ill just go back to my desk"

hrmn i could change the bom table to have a second sub table for just fasteners

might have to go with that

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    TomD.inPDX17-Peridot
    17-Peridot
    July 24, 2014

    More PTC spam... I haven't found a single occasion for Manikin lite either.

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    dgschaefer21-Topaz II
    21-Topaz II
    August 4, 2014

    So, those of us who've paid maintenance for years and, I believe, once paid extra for Pro/Library to get a bunch of poorly modeled, family table driven fasteners that hadn't been touched by PTC since the early 90s now get to pay again (and likely for the same parts) if we want "intelligent" (but likely still poorly modeled) fasteners?

    Yep, sounds like PTC.

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      TomD.inPDX17-Peridot
      17-Peridot
      August 4, 2014

      And don't forget, prices go up this quarter for -everything-! Remember, recycling is a green thing to do

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        JimBarrettSmith5-Regular Member
        5-Regular Member
        August 8, 2014

        Going back to the original question can I add custom parameters

        Using param_relations.txt you can define all teh relations and parameter you want. However as most people have already stated you will require the advanced version.

        thanks, Jim

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        garytinker1-VisitorAuthor
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        August 22, 2014

        i think im going to turn it off for the entire office. what a waste of time

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