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1-Visitor
November 16, 2015
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Material designation will not change....even though I changed it!!!

  • November 16, 2015
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Frustration level is a 7.7 at the moment. I have two materials that I want to run a part in to compare in Simulate Lite. However, I cannot get the material to change from one to the other. Even going back to the "Part" and using "Prepare, Change Material" will not effect a change over in Simulate Lite.

Can anyone shed some light on this issue?

Thanks,


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1-Visitor
November 17, 2015

Are you working in an assembly?

Try assigning the material in Simulate. Click on the assign material icon in the ribbon and see if this works.

Hope this helps,
Don Anderson

13-Aquamarine
November 17, 2015

Hi,

What version are you using? I did the following in Creo3 M030.

From within Simulate Lite I am able to change the material properties using the 'assign' link at the bottom of the 'process guide'.

if I change the material I get the following dialogue:

I am able to re-run and get different results

I can also do this via the model tree from within Lite by right clicking 'material assignment'

I find when I delete the material assignment using the model tree, the process guide does not update until I try and run. It then fails stating that there is no material; which is true but late.

From within Parametric I am able to use FILE > PREPARE > MODEL PROPERTIES .... remembering to RIGHT CLICK ASSIGN

These properties are used in Lite even though I have other materials in the model 'loaded' when in Lite and I haven't used Lite to assign a material.

I can delete materials in the model via the model tree when in Lite. I can delete ALL materials from the model via the model tree. This is a change of behaviour from earlier versions of Simulate/Mechanica. It used to be that the material assigned in Parametric could not be deleted from within Simulate/Mechanica.

What should be changed is that when I assign a material in PARAMETRIC using FILE > PREPARE > MODEL PROPERTIES, then reassign in Lite using the 'assign' link at the bottom of the process guide, there is no warning that something is being 'overridden' (when I have seen it think the message uses the word 'hidden') in favour of my latest material selection.

This last point is something that happens in Simulate too. A model has material properties assigned but unless one is diligent enough to check the part in parametric there is no way of telling. A material assignment should automatically be created and visible in the Simulate model tree if a material was assigned to the part in Parametric.

DeanLong1-VisitorAuthor
1-Visitor
November 17, 2015

Gentlemen,

Don, I am not working in an assembly. I have one part that I want to run comparative analyses to see my differences. I have tried assigning in and out of Simulate Lite.

Charles, I have tried all that you have suggested. Assigning and un-assigning both in and out of Simulate Lite does not give me any love. I can get to the Confirmation Window you have shown above, answer yes to both prompts and the material will not change. The only thing that has "worked" is I have gone as far a deleting ALL the materials AND the constraints AND the loads, save the model, exit (Creo2, by the way), come back in and assign the material I want. That is no solution but the only thing that seems to work.

And, how did you guys get "Correct" answers to my post before I responded? Isn't that up to me? ;o)

Thanks for the suggestions.

13-Aquamarine
November 17, 2015

Dean,

My tests were with a simple part.

Your work around is painful and should not be necessary.

Can you upload you part and give the exact version and cut of s/w?

Did you confirm that the material had not changed by right click > edit definition on the material assignment in the model tree?

How did you determine that the material had not changed? Was this by reviewing displacements, stresses?

('correct' is via a green star just beneath the last line of a reply I think and yes it is up to you as far as I know. Your question isn't answered yet ! )

DeanLong1-VisitorAuthor
1-Visitor
November 17, 2015

Charles,

I think my frustration yesterday was clouding my exploration and vision.... I got back into this part this morning and found the only way I can change the material for the FEA, is to delete the multiple materials in the part. In other words, I can have only one material designation at a time in the "FILE, PREPARE, MATERIAL PROPERTIES BOX. Even un-assigning (Material A) and re-assigning (Material B) does not give the ability to change it over in Simulate Lite. It gets "stuck" on whatever material is holding on in Lite.

It seems to be a bug to me. I am off maintenance so I cannot create a Product Idea.

Thanks for the info