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April 3, 2012
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Stupid Noob Question of the day - Can I create predefined dimensions for bolts - screws - holes?

  • April 3, 2012
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I'm in a bit of a quandry over the hole wizard. I've just started my 1st job as a designer and already I've got questions - go figure! When you click on the hole wizard you can choose the size of the tapped hole for a bolt or screw, but can you predefine the dimensions associated with that partiular hole size? Case and point, my company has a standard for 1/4-20 screws that follows this... Screw Dia: .250 Tap Dril: .201 Counter bore: .41 Dia & .26 deep or Counter sink: 82deg x .54 dia.

I'd like to go in and edit some predetermined parameters for the standard bolts & screws we use. Any help woud greatly be appreciated.

-john


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Best answer by Patriot_1776

Well, the hole tables can e changed somewhat, and you can access the parameters several ways. I've attached a text file of this and some other choice strings that might help. "att_feat" pulls the listed parameters from whatever feature the dwg leader is attached to. If the leader fails, the note fails and you must delete it.

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Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
April 3, 2012

Well, the hole tables can e changed somewhat, and you can access the parameters several ways. I've attached a text file of this and some other choice strings that might help. "att_feat" pulls the listed parameters from whatever feature the dwg leader is attached to. If the leader fails, the note fails and you must delete it.

1-Visitor
April 3, 2012

Keep in mind that the standards that Pro E/Creo uses are the industry standards - such as from Machinery's Handbook, etc.

To change them isn't a good thing, unless your company is deviating from them. I didn't look up the standard for 1/4-20, so I'm not sure if what you posted is a deviation.

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
April 4, 2012

.201 dia IS standard for a .250-20 BUT, different sizes are going to be used for threads depending on whether you want 65% or 75% thread etc. You CAN change these tables to a point in Pro/E to get what you want. A lot of times, I use a cut and a cosmetic thread instead of the hole command so I can get exactly what I want.

1-Visitor
April 6, 2012

Kris & Frank,

Thaks very much for the help. You definitly got me started down the correct path!

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
April 10, 2012

Did that text file help in any way?

13-Aquamarine
April 13, 2012

Yes Frank...

Thanks for your cheat sheet! I knew most of these things just from experience but it's good that someone wrote down this information in a file. You should turn this into a fancy document and post it.

And for what it's worth... I also do not use the standard holes. I find the predefined holes too restrictive and I like the flexibility of defining my own hole and threads separately. For working in various materials the hole tables aren't complete enough. There's also a few additional annoyances with them.

For example... let's say you create a standard hole and then assemble hardware to it. Later you realize you needed a larger bolt so you change the standard hole to a large size. Immediately your hardware fails. When you redefine a standard hole to a new size it's effectively removed and a new one put in it's place. You lose the references to the hole... and your previously assembled hardware fails. If I use my own hole... I can resize it and change it's thread profile without losing my hardware.

They never seem to tell you about that one... but it's been like that since WF2. Maybe I should try again in Creo?