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wfalco16-Pearl
16-Pearl
April 2, 2014
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Tol Check

  • April 2, 2014
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All,

On WF5.

Someone asking me about tolerance checking in Pro/E.

Not something I've used.

I am pretty sure the functionality is there?

Anyone use?

Got docs?

Thanks,

WayneF


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RonGrabau1-Visitor
1-Visitor
April 2, 2014
Wayne,

We are on Creo Parametric but I think that this may apply to WF5. PTC has a tool called TAX. It is a subset of the CE/TOL tool. We recently did a quick analaysis of the tool and the bottom line is that we are not going to make a purchase.

For years we have attempted at various times to use CE/Tol. We always end up abandoning the tool.

1. You need an expert that is use to the tool. It is not something that the casual user will get use to.
2. 3D analysis can be tricky
3. 2D analysis by hand can be quicker than setting up the problem within CE/Tol

These are just our opinion. I can send you the user evaluation if you want to see what they thought of the tool. There is nothing company specific that I should not share, but out of respect for PTC I prefer that it not be distributed. There are chances that the users did not fully understand the tool. There was no training involved so please take it for just a point of view. Let me know if you want to see the report.

Ronald B. Grabau
HP PDE-IT
Roseville, CA
916-785-3298
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kimndave91-Visitor
1-Visitor
April 2, 2014


It is CE-Tol, formerly Ti-Tol ... back to University of Utah.


Sigmetrix claims responsibility for it now.


The analysis becomes part of the model, so as the model changes the analysis will update.


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DonSenchuk12-Amethyst
12-Amethyst
April 2, 2014
I have to concur with Ronald on this one. We looked into CE/Tol and the user evaluations were all negative. Their overarching theme was that you pretty much had to recreate everything just to get to the tolerance analysis portion and by the time you've done that you would have already been done calculating it by hand.
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wfalco16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
April 2, 2014
Yes - someone just mentioned TAX. That is a $$$ issue.

I like your hoinesty on the CE/TOL tool.

The user Eval would be great.

THANKS!


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wfalco16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
April 2, 2014

I just had someone tell me they abandoned it - I assume not user
friendly? Thoughts on that?

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wfalco16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
April 2, 2014
Honesty is what I want. Thanks to you both. Sounds like this person I
know interested in it can't just hit the ground running.


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DonSenchuk12-Amethyst
12-Amethyst
April 2, 2014
I’m reminded of the old adage: You can have something cheap, good or fast. Pick two.

In this case it seems to be batting 0 for 3.
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wfalco16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
April 2, 2014
I hear ya. LOL.


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STEVEG21-Topaz I
21-Topaz I
April 2, 2014
Personally, if good is one of the two then I’m fine with that. Isn’t that what all engineers strive for every day. A good product that’s cheap to make/use. Or a good product that is fast to make.

Sorry. It’s hump day. Ha.

Steve G
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kaudibert10-Marble
10-Marble
April 2, 2014

Just finished training on version 8.3 and I don't think you can get the same quality and/or quantity of information about your model and the different sensitivities from a hand calculation in the same amount of time.


I am guessing GM did some hand calculations and regrets it now.

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