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November 15, 2004
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Exploder rules

  • November 15, 2004
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So in other words, you want some of the rules but only the ones you
agree with? When you sign on to the exploder, these rules are spelled
out distinctly. In all walks of society, we have to abide by rules. As a
European, I find the affected "horror" over Janet Jackson and the
"nipplegate" incident faintly amusing but would I let my wife on the
beach topless, I don't think so - because the "rules" in the USA don't
allow it. (As and aside, if my wife wanted to go topless, I would have
ABSOLUTELY no say in it anyway). So we have to abide by the rules set
for whatever we're doing otherwise we'd have everybody doing their own
thing which is precisely what Rick - in his extremely nice way - is
trying to avoid. One would hope that these rules have been carefully
thought out and are of benefit to all but IF a change is warranted,
let's get them changed by mutual consent and not by mavericks breaking
them.

Richard

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    dgschaefer21-Topaz II
    21-Topaz II
    November 15, 2004
    I have long been a fan of the reply to sender and post a summary method.  It's the most efficient solution.  But, to be honest, it's downfall is that it depends many individuals in a large, diverse group acting the same way.  That's never going to happen.  Some folks will decide to reply to the list regardless and some will ignore the requirement of a summary.  If we could build it into the system, apart from individual decision, (IE force reply to sender and force a summary) it might work.  How do you do that?  If you could, how do you do it without making the system so cumbersome that it drives people away?   Given human nature, the reply to group is probably a better idea, although sending a summary anyway couldn't hurt.

    As far as a bulletin board format, there are already several sites like that for Pro/E.  I don't visit any of them.  I think they would be of limited value simply because you have to go there read them.  People would generally only go to ask a question, not to go read questions that they might be able to answer.

    I have 'rules' in Outlook XP (2002) that work pretty well for me to filter my exploder mail into folders.  They also delete the majority of 'I'm not home' messages.  Not perfect, but much better than not filtering.

    Doug Schaefer
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    ptc-26387381-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 15, 2004
    No one wants the extra email... Everyone would love to have an archive of
    questions and ANSWERS. What to do. What to do.

    How about we stay with the same system (only respond to the person asking
    the question), but the person asking the question is responsible, no
    REQUIRED, to submit a summary report including "cut & paste" from the
    experts who wrote them. If you don't submit a summary after X numbers of
    days (I vote for 3) then you can't submit another question, or your
    subscription is temporarily unavailable. I'm not trying to create a
    management headache for Rick. So maybe the last part of my suggestion is
    too much, or maybe there is a an automated way of doing this. I don't know
    but this seems top be the best compromise.

    My 2 cents,

    Brad


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    unknown11-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 15, 2004
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    cfly1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 15, 2004
    Has no one else completely read the posting that Rick sent out? The one
    section that everyone is arguing about isn't even considered a rule; it's
    more of a suggestion... notice the bold text below, and how about we put
    this thing to rest?
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    HarryArcher1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 15, 2004
    I have a solution to this problem.
    I use Microsoft Outlook.
    All my Exploder emails go to my delete folder.
    I set my delete folder to delete upon closing Microsoft Outlook with verification.
    I use the preview pane to see all these exploders.
    At the end of the day, I close Outlook and it asks me if I want to delete the files in the deleted folder.
    If I finished reviewing them I say yes. Otherwise I say no.
    This saves me from deleting them individually and thus saving me much time.


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    jschmehl1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 15, 2004
    I tried to hold back, but it's one of those days....short and sweet:

    A reply to all message should appear in your in box as "RE:
    (subject)"...see subject line. If you don't want to read it...delete it
    and see if a "SUMMARY" comes out. If you do, go ahead and open it. Set
    a filter for "RE: (subject)" if it really bothers you that much. Rick
    does not charge us to become a member nor do we pay him to maintain the
    site. Complain about me for dragging on with the thread, but don't
    complain cause you can't delete something you don't want to read. There
    is an unsubscribe (sort of like changing the station when there's
    something you don't like). Thanks Rick for continued commitment, keep
    up the good work!
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    unknown11-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 15, 2004
    Well, I for one think this type of discussion helps things to evolve.

    Nobody can begin to thank Rick for keeping this going and I have no idea of
    how much of his day this occupies.

    I think, however, that all I or anyone else here wants is a place to find
    some help and help out when we can. I've said my piece: I prefer to see
    replies in the list: That way I don't send an answer to a question that has
    been answered nor does the original poster receive 10 replies with the same
    suggestion and I DO see all the suggestions made by others, guaranteeing
    that I see an answer even if the original poster doesn't post a summary,
    which becomes more or less unnecessary.

    Most people on the list and participating in this discussion are regular
    visitors and not 1-time answer-seekers, so why not set up a poll (the
    question can be changed): "Do you want answers to be posted to the list or
    to the individual and let the individual post the summary to the list (not a
    COPY-PASTE of replies: these suggestions worked, these didn't)?"

    Groups on yahoo.com can set up polls and I volunteer to set it up if nobody
    else does. One or two suggestions for the question and I think we can agree
    that the answers should be limited to:
    1. Everyone does as they please
    2. Reply to original poster and that person posts a filtered summary with
    what worked and what didn't
    3. Reply to the list


    Now, I don't know what happens on Rick's side of things. Will posting to
    the list give him 3 times the work? If that in any way gives him a tougher
    job then my vote is changed to number 2, so Rick, hop in with your words
    anytime soon 🙂

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    Rui
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    ptc-4373111-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 16, 2004
    Not to continue this diatribe, but has anyone else besides me use the MS
    Outlook Express for the exploder? I setup a newsgroup (as instructed on the
    website) and I get all the exploder email sent to a newsgroup instead of my
    personal email address. That way I'm not inundated with emails that I don't
    have the time to read, and can check the exploder when ever I have the time.
    I've used this technique ever since it became available and it works great.
    And in regards to getting responses to me directly on to the group, I'd
    rather see it to the group.


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    Steve M. Wilson
    Sr. ME
    Bivio Networks
    Pleasanton, CA

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    PeterBrown1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 17, 2004
    I agree, the Newsreader in Outlook Express is the way to go.... if everyone
    used it, no one would be inundated with "Out of Office" replies in 4
    different languages every time they posted a question or reply.


    On the bright side, I now know what "Abwesenheitznotiz" means. Now if only
    I knew how to work that into a conversation.

    Regards






    "Steve M. Wilson" <swilson@bivio.net> wrote in message news:76518@model...
    >
    > Not to continue this diatribe, but has anyone else besides me use the MS
    > Outlook Express for the exploder? I setup a newsgroup (as instructed on
    > the website) and I get all the exploder email sent to a newsgroup instead
    > of my personal email address. That way I'm not inundated with emails that
    > I don't have the time to read, and can check the exploder when ever I have
    > the time. I've used this technique ever since it became available and it
    > works great. And in regards to getting responses to me directly on to the
    > group, I'd rather see it to the group.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Steve M. Wilson
    > Sr. ME
    > Bivio Networks
    > Pleasanton, CA
    >
    > "Black, Richard A" <-> wrote in message
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