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17-Peridot
August 26, 2014

No fair not adding a picture!

Creo 2 or 3?

15-Moonstone
August 26, 2014

i have given the part..creo elements pro/5.0

12-Amethyst
August 26, 2014

I don´t have Creo 3, but it seems that you can do it with freestyle:

Aligning Freestyle Geometry

And a member of our community has a good tutorial about surfaces of that kind: here.

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17-Peridot
August 26, 2014

Thanks, Jose. Another hidden command added to my ribbon

conic surface and n-sided patch.

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
August 26, 2014

I did an N-Sided patch and think it turned out pretty well. Haven't done one of those in forever. Don't have the "Style" extension.

N-SIDED PATCH-01.jpg

17-Peridot
August 26, 2014

Very nice Frank!

12-Amethyst
August 27, 2014

How about creating a flat surface and three boundary blends?

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Video Link : 5222

15-Moonstone
August 27, 2014

yes i have made that one..instead of intersect curves i used datum points though.

thanks for your effort.

17-Peridot
August 28, 2014

Okay; 3 days and many fails... I finally got one that might pass mustard. (don't ask me who came up with that one!)

All surface boundary blends were joined using curvature.

If I had to explain the process, I couldn't. ...So I attached the file.

But it also passed the final test. It solidifies!

Creo 2.0 attached and STEP.

Set shade quality to about 10 to see get a fairly smooth surface to evaluate.

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
August 28, 2014

Wow, nice work! I can't wait for Pro/E to simply just be able to DO that without having to build things so elaborately.

Glad I don't have to worry about that, I know the guy polishing the mold will make everything C2 as long as I get it as close as possible.

17-Peridot
August 28, 2014

I worked on a couple of ID projects and they really wanted the model -perfect- since it makes the EDM forms. Any glitch in the model will reflect in the mold.

In general I agree; sandpaper is the best C2 tool ever made. Maybe we need a sandpaper feature!

12-Amethyst
September 5, 2014

Another approach:

17-Peridot
September 5, 2014

That is an excellent video, Jose. There are a lot of tips in your technique and boundary blends in general.

And the music is perfect along with your determined control of the mouse.

kudos!

12-Amethyst
September 5, 2014

Sorry, I didn´t mention that isn´t mine.

The video is from Vladimir Palffy, I just found it while browsing on Youtube .

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
September 5, 2014

Ok, for fun...

TRY-Y-SURFS-01.jpg

3 different sizes, 3 different angles, and I can vary the shape by changing the rho numbers. I'm really liking the n-sided patch. Too bad it can only be used on 5-sided+ patches. The reflection analysis came out pretty good, I think. The GUI on setting up the tangencies is a total PITA......

17-Peridot
September 5, 2014

For ID and analysis, you really cannot use tangency... and with curvature, a lot of features simply fail.

Vladimir's video clears up one thing where I used the cutout to fill the triangle, the projected tangent curve would solve by giving it a more natural shape.

This really should be dead simple to create with full high order unions. Click, Click, Click and tweak some handles. The idea that one can be creative on an idustrial design level with Creo Parametric is a cruel joke. Just when you get an idea, you are bogged down in 2 days of feature failures for just a single element!

I really want a new feature "SANDPAPER"^tm

Patriot_1776
22-Sapphire II
September 8, 2014

Yeah, I never knew until I started seriously doing surfacing in Pro/E that there was anything OTHER than just tangency, that there are different LEVELS of "tangency". Geez....

Yeah, you'd think with the surfacing extension, you'd get it, but no. And, like you, I've found some boundary blends just fail when trying to use curvature, instead of tangency (for no friggin' apparent reason), so you're stuck with just tangency.

Luckily, my mold-maker HAS the Pro/SANDPAPER module! I'm glad for what I do, that I'm not forced to make C2 surfaces, I get 'em close enough, and specify a C2 surface finish in the drawing.

I'm REALLY liking the N-sided mesh, I think it turned out as well as can be expected, and except for the maddening tangency GUI, was pretty easy. I started doing it similar to Vladimir, and decided it was far too much work for little to no real gain. I have another idea I'd like to try.....