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November 6, 2007
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Sketcher vs Intent manager

  • November 6, 2007
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Hello Everyone,



I have been away from pro-e for a while 2000i2 and now back using fulltime,
what would you recommend sketcher or intent manager.

Are both of these still being developed, or is development only on intent
manager.



Best regards

Stephen







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    dgschaefer21-Topaz II
    21-Topaz II
    November 6, 2007
    Intent manager is part of sketcher, so your question is kind of like
    saying "What should I get on my new car, brakes or ABS?" 😄 Just like
    ABS are a more sophisticated braking system, Intent Manager is a more
    sophisticated sketcher.

    Although you can turn it off (and some long time users insist they are
    better without it), I would highly recommend that you leave intent
    manager on. Once you are used to it you won't be able to live without
    it. I've been a Pro|E user for over 11 years, back to Rev. 16, and
    wouldn't sketch without it.

    I think that it has existed since before 20001 as well. Wasn't Intent
    Manager introduced sometime around Rev. 20?

    Doug Schaefer
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    mike_pavese1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 6, 2007
    I too am curious regarding this question. I started with Proback at v20 and followed through to now WF2. For me, more times than not, I use sketcher WITHOUT Intent Manager ON, because I want my sketch a specific way especially if I am using a somewhat complex sketch.

    I am curious what others have to say, I never want to be too closed minded, maybe I need to revisit Intent Manager more often.

    Mike

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    Hello Everyone,



    I have been away from pro-e for a while 2000i2 and now back using fulltime,
    what would you recommend sketcher or intent manager.

    Are both of these still being developed, or is development only on intent
    manager.



    Best regards

    Stephen







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    eaolsen1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 6, 2007
    In my opinion, Intent Manager was one of the best improvements that has ever
    been made to ProE. It took a real weakness of the software and made it into
    a strength. In the process, I don't think they even screwed anything else
    up. It makes me think that PTC IS capable of making robust, meaningful
    improvements without giving up (or messing up) current functionality.

    Erik Olsen


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    ptc-20325851-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 6, 2007
    Welllllllllll....let's not go overboard on compliments, since PTC might be watching :)

    IMO Intent Manager is EXCELLENT and I wouldn't want to live without it anymore.

    But sometimes....GRRRRR...

    "Cannot reference additional 3D geometry" ring a bell anywhere?

    Or how about when you go to a sketch and INTENT MANAGER is NOT available for some mysterious reason....ARGHHH.

    But like I originally replied, it serves me 99.9999999% of the time so I won't complain....too loud.

    Rui



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    JonathanHodgson13-Aquamarine
    13-Aquamarine
    November 6, 2007

    I've been using Pro/E since about 2002 (2000 -> 2000i^2 -> WF2), and
    I've just tried turning off the Intent Manager to find out what you guys
    are talking about!

    Sketcher with Intent Manager has always seemed pretty good to me.
    Occasionally you need to exaggerate your shape, or use Tab and
    right-click/Shift+right-click to control the constraints while you're
    sketching (no, I *never* want to snap to the Midpoint of a line!) but
    it's generally easy to ensure that the only constraints created are
    those you want. Those that aren't created can be added later, and I
    only rarely have a sketch which won't resolve even though the
    constraints are valid. Maybe next time that happens I'll try turning IM
    off...

    Good modelling practice says that you never leave grey (gray if you're
    reading this 8 hours behind me) constraints or dimensions, and that's
    about it. If your sketch is getting so complex that you're having
    difficulty, you may want to consider more, simpler features (though I've
    seen newbies create the entire profile of a part in SwIM, apparently
    without problems, before we bashed that habit out of them!)

    Regards,
    Jonathan

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    ptc-6946341-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 6, 2007
    I haven't heard this topic come up in a long time…In my opinion the best analogy would be do you prefer to drive a standard or an automatic car? I personally prefer to tell the system how I would like it to behave. There is no way the system can tell me how I intend do develop and constraint my sketch. However, intent manager is very helpful in enforcing stubborn constraints and speeding up simple sketches…So my two cents is I use both and love the ability to turn off intent manager when I like.

    BTW I have been using Pro since v19 and if I remember intent manager came in v2000i

    Andy Ley

    CAD Supervisor

    Keilhauer

    <u>www.keilhauer.com</u>

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    wfalco16-Pearl
    16-Pearl
    November 6, 2007
    Andy,

    Thank you. I agree.

    I have great breaks.....and an emergency break.

    WayneF
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    wfalco16-Pearl
    16-Pearl
    November 6, 2007
    Rui,

    Could not resist chiming in oon your comments.

    I have found that when you can not add additional 3d geometry - chances are really good you are dealing with independent copied stuff. And the when its not available and reverts to a non-intentent manager? I've seen that happen with text in sketches that may have overwhelmed its ability to know our intent. Actually some do not realize that text is actually forgiving and will let you "pass go and collect 200 dollars" (exit sketch with no dimensions or contraints).

    2 great points.

    WayneF
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    wfalco16-Pearl
    16-Pearl
    November 6, 2007
    Spell check can care less if I mispell breaks. And I need one.
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    eaolsen1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    November 6, 2007
    Rui-

    The "Cannot reference additional 3D geometry" is extremely frustrating. The
    only time that I have ever seen this message is when redefining a feature
    that is either the parent or child of a mirror. If I remove the mirror then
    I can reference any geometry that I like. This is one of several reasons
    that I try to avoid using mirror. Maybe this is something that IM broke, or
    maybe it is limitations of dependent features.

    Erik Olsen


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