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Sketcher vs Intent manager

Forum|Forum|18 years ago
November 6, 2007
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Hello Everyone,

I have been away from pro-e for a while 2000i2 and now back using fulltime,
what would you recommend sketcher or intent manager.

Are both of these still being developed, or is development only on intent
manager.

Best regards

Stephen

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JOES

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As all the CAD platforms out there mature they seem like they are becoming
very similar. One adds some function, the others adopt it. PTC has been a
bit behind the curve on a lot of stuff. But Pro/E's sketcher (with it's
Intent Manager) is the one place (in my opinion) Pro/E blows them all away.
At least from what I've seen in Catia, Solidworks, & Inventor. It could be
they have newer versions that have improved but it seemed to me that their
sketchers were at where Pro/E was at years ago.

Again, it's just my opinion.

Regards,
Joe S.

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ksauter

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Just RMB when a new constraint highlights, and pro will put a line through
it and disable it. Very, very handy, and it greatly lessens the grief
factor. Doesn't work without intent manager.

Ken Sauter
Sauter Industrial Design
3352 Broadway Blvd #414
Garland, TX 75043
972-226-1300
214-292-8732 fax
214-724-9100 cell
www.sauterindustrialdesign.com

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dgschaefer

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As others have said, the "Cannot reference additional 3D geometry" is
the result of a dependant copy. The error message could be better, for
sure.

This is not an intent manager thing, this happened back in the
pre-intent manager days too, IIRC.

My biggest intent manager gripe is 'weak' dims that are stronger than
'strong' dims. You know, add your own dimension or constraint and Pro|E
wants to delete everything BUT that weak dim. to resolve the sketch.
Make the weak dim strong and add the same dimension and suddenly it's an
option for deleting. Maybe 'weak' really means invisible ...

Still, I love intent manager and the control if gives me over my
sketches.

Doug Schaefer

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dgschaefer

21-Topaz II

Is it just me, or did this thread get forked into two threads, one on
the PTCUser list and one here on ProeCAD? I don't think I did it, but
maybe, Any way ...

Andy - People who don't like Intent Manger usually look at me like I
have a weasel growing from my scalp when I say this, but the reason I
like intent manager is that it gives me the ability to tell the system
what I want. Without it, I cannot add the constraints I want. I have
to try to draw the sketch in a way that Pro|E assumes the constraints I
want when I hit regenerate. It's a skill that takes a bit to master and
until you have mastered it, it'll drive you nuts. I find that many
times sketches made with Intent Manger turned off end up with extra dims
that aren't necessary because the user gave up on getting Pro|E to
assume that equal constraint or symmetry. Not always, but more often
than when using Intent Manger.

With Intent Manager I draw an exaggerated shape with the right number of
entities and then go about adding the constraints I need to make it
work. I sometimes have to fight with Pro|E as it adds things or refuses
to delete the right things, but I generally have more control.

Anyway, to each his own.

Doug Schaefer

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A.DelNegro

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I second Doug's opinion. I've been around since R17 and I can say I
turned on intent manager when it appeared and haven't turned it off
since. I can remember fighting the old system of regenerating after
constraining and when the sketch failed, you had to figure out why Pro
couldn't understand you. VERY frustrating! With IM, the sketch is
always constrained. You just have to make sure its constrained the way
YOU want it to be. IM gives better feedback, and gives it after every
change.

Tony

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ptc-694634

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First of all I want to apologies for crossing over to this list I am not
quite sure how it happened. I thought I was replying to the first post.
I don't usually reply I just sit back in the shadows and read all the
useful information on here.

The biggest point that I was trying to make is that intent manager or no
intent manager it comes down to use preference and mine just so
happeneds to be a bit of both and I like the option. I have never had a
hard time getting my sketches constrained the way I want but that's me.

I also feel that for new users intent manager helps to promote poor
modeling habits as I see all the time...that just comes down to better
training I guess.

Anyways sorry again for crossing the threads.

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ptc-694634

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For those interested in this thread.

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DaveEngel

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Have you seen the Sketcher/Intent manager in Wildfire 4.0?!

It can shade closed sections, quickly show you where entities intersect and the Feature Requirements” button can help you figure out what is wrong with your sketch.

Dave

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ptc-141274

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Now that is a nice feature. Will it show you where you have an entity
on top of another one?

Doug

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tgiauque

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Judging by your screenshot, this looks like a terrific idea, implemented at about 80% efficiency, which is about right for most new PTC stuff. (Sorry, PTC guys, but it's true.) What kind of use is the "Basic requirements" warning? What does that mean? If I were to encounter this while working in Sketcher, it would tell me nothing useful. That's right up there with "feature cannot be created."

I assume that you can click on the "Intersecting entities" line and they'll highlight for you, so that you know where they are, yes?

Okay, I guess that's 75% efficiency, since three of the four "warning" lines are somewhat self-explanatory.

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