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pwyndham1-Visitor
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October 28, 2010
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Watching Lightning Event - Creo

  • October 28, 2010
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So far so good.

Creo - is the new name.

Latin for Create - also means - I Think, I Create, I Believe

New focus is simple to use, very powerful and able to work in a multiCAD environment.

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    pwyndham1-VisitorAuthor
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    October 28, 2010

    http://creo.ptc.com

    Release date: Summer 2011. My engineers want it now.

    Creo is created off the elements of Pro/E, CoCreate and ProductView.

    Pro/E will be knowns as: Creo elements/pro

    CoCreate is: Creo elements/direct

    ProductView is: Creo elements/View

    Sounds like there will be a direct upgrade path.

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    DanMarotta12-Amethyst
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    October 28, 2010

    Paul, I moved your discussion into the new creo community along with your Project Lightning posts. This new community will be a destination for members to discuss the strategy and vision of creo and it's suite of products.

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    pwyndham1-VisitorAuthor
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    October 28, 2010

    Cool a new community.

    I wish the event would have showed model creation and workflow. It kind of left us hanging.

    Can we get a copy of the video?

    How does WindChill ProductPoint fit into the Creo scheme of things?

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    DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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    October 28, 2010

    First let me say that I was actually impressed with CREO.

    I wish they would come out and clearly explain if my Maintenance will automatically move me over to CREO 1.0 without additional cost. It sure sounded like it's the case with the re-branding of Pro/ENGINEER to CORE elements/pro but they never specifically said it.

    What are your thoughts?

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    DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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    October 28, 2010

    I don't think my initial statement really said it, so I am saying it again.

    I was REALLY Impressed with CREO. If CREO delivers what PTC says it will, I can get behind their statement that it will change CAD for the next 20 years.

    It seems the Apps are like Modules. If I have a Surfacing Module, it will now be an CREO app. This means that you pay for what you need like the old model. Nothing wrong with that, but the way CREO is going to live on one unified structure is what I find so impressive.

    The ability to use any CAD data

    The ability to create real 2D Drawings that are not tied to the model if I choose

    The ability to make quick changes with Direct Modeling and have them translate into Parametric environment is amazing.

    I did not see any Kool-Aid, but I think I drank a Pitcher.

    I still want to see how things work out gearing toward CREO 1.0 but I must admit that I went into the presentation with a negative mindset based on what I have seen in the last 2 to 3 years with the CAD direction PTC was taking. Now I am excited and hope CREO delivers on the promise.

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    STEVEG21-Topaz I
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    October 28, 2010

    But will it actually work decently? When they asked what was my greatest frustration, my answer was that it is not stable enough and that there are too many bugs. We get crashes here too often. I don't want to turn this into a "Well you should understand how hard it is to program". I know. I understand. The standard saying around here is "In each build they fix 1 bug but break 1 or 2 others".

    And now they have this horrible Ribbon in WF5.

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    pwyndham1-VisitorAuthor
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    October 28, 2010

    I don't think stability is limited to PTC products, I have used several different CAD tools and have stability issues with all of them. I don't think we really have any room to talk badly about stability at this point. Nobody has the opportunity to play with Creo in the real world yet. So, lets focus this discussion on what PTC has shown. Do you like the AnyRole Apps idea?

    You mention the ribbon. I happen to like the ribbon. Yes, sometimes I think that the workflow they put in the ribbon is not the way I would like it. Like trying to modify a dimension in a drawing while in the view placement ribbon mode. But, I think there are a lot of benefits to the ribbon that in the end out weight the negatives. Of course that is my oppinion. It would be nice if you could customize the ribbon with the modes and functions you want.

    I want to understand the workflow between apps better.

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    STEVEG21-Topaz I
    21-Topaz I
    October 28, 2010

    I understand what you are saying Paul. I know that all software have there problems and bugs too. But I have been frustrated with Pro/E's bugs since I started using it at rev 11. And some of the bugs stay there for many revisions.

    I have used Office 2007 since December of last year and I still hate it. I will admit that we haven't switched to WF5 yet but I will not make our users go to it if I have any say. And I do. I have used it for testing purposes. I know at some point we will have to go to a newer version but we will definitely be skipping WF5. Then maybe PTC will fix it up enough so the ribbon is not as bad.

    Forgive me for the somewhat tangent topics but I am very skeptical.

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