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Robert-Altman10-Marble
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October 1, 2014
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[proecad] exploder

  • October 1, 2014
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The number one reason that I hope they don’t change the exploder is that I find answers to questions I did not know that I even had.

I support just as many SolidWorks users as ProE and I wish that there was the same type of exploder for SolidWorks.

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    DonSenchuk12-Amethyst
    12-Amethyst
    October 2, 2014
    Why does it have to matter who floated the idea? A stupid idea is a stupid idea regardless of who initiated it.
    MarcoTosin
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    MarcoTosin21-Topaz I
    21-Topaz I
    October 2, 2014

    Here you can see what Ryan Kelley said today on PTC community site.


    http://communities.ptc.com/groups/member-showcase/blog/2014/06/16/ptcuser-and-ptc-community-announcement#comment-14873


    "We're in the process of reviewing a technical design with the PTC/USER board of directors which will highlight how our team plans to migrate all of the data and plan to present a formal project plan (with more regular updates for both communities) in November of this year."

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    rreifsnyder15-Moonstone
    15-Moonstone
    October 2, 2014
    It matters who floated the idea because I believe Brian’s point is that the proof that this is not all some scheme by PTC to take over the world (mwuhahaha – rubbing their hands together) is that the idea came from the PTCUser group. That being said, I agree that this is a bad idea as floated. I hate it. But nothing will be accomplished in changing it if the response we give PTC is over the top conspiracy theories.

    I have added more groups to my PTC/Community list for emails since this was announced so that I could see what kind of traffic happens there. Overall, the traffic is very similar to the traffic here on the exploder. That being said, the people pointing out that since you can get emails from the Community lists it is just the same. WRONG. Emails of responses on the Community do not include the prior responses or the original question so to see the entire thread I DO have to go to the website. I don’t have time for that. If someone’s response is “You’re right! That’s the best thing since sliced bread!!” I have to go somewhere else to see this pearl of wisdom. It may seem small, but I can save the last email in that conversation from the exploder and I have the whole picture. I just can’t do that with the community.

    For me the bottom line is not whether it is PTC/User or PTC that hosts the discussions, I just want the same format I have been used to along with the ability to respond via email. With all the technology at their disposal, I would think both should be possible. Perhaps then it is a user preference as to how to receive their emails.

    Rob Reifsnyder
    Mechanical Design Engineer/ Producibility Engineer / Components Engineer / Pro/E SME / Pro/E Librarian
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    DonSenchuk12-Amethyst
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    October 2, 2014
    Well, some people care who floats a bad idea. I don’t. Just like I don’t care who floats a good idea. The idea (or thought or suggestion or method) should stand or fall on its own merits, regardless of who proposed it. “Don’t bash PTC” is an entirely different conversation.

    Having said that, you’re entirely correct that isn’t not the same. I responded to Ryan Kelly’s email via the old tried and true ‘Respond to All’. The same one I’ve been using to communicate during this thread (and all others on the Exploder that didn’t need to be personally directed). I’ve been waiting to see what people’s response was to the details I feel he should also consider addressing to both communities in his November address. Alas, I’m pretty sure ‘Respond to All’ doesn’t actually do anything. I’m also still waiting for confirmation that ‘Respond’ even goes to the person directly at all. Or perhaps it just gets flushed into the Abyss.

    It’s also a wonder to me that with all the technology available, my picking ‘Respond to All’ and snipping out any personal email addresses – leaving, for example, -<">mailtoSmiley Tongue-> – it doesn’t take what I’ve written and go make a forum post.
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    FV_0117-Peridot
    October 3, 2014

    Hi all,


    Why don't we discuss a contingency plan? Let's say, theoretically, PTC/USER is no more, PTC Community is not allowing basic listserv functionality, we are all extremely unhappy. Why don't we take a look at Google Groups? Ithas 100% of the desired email/notification/obfuscation functionality right out of the box. The only thing we have to do is to make a private group(s) and import existing member's email addresses.API's are available(custom tweaksif needed). I had taken a look at PTC Community underlyingjavascript code - uses AddThis API's for message handling, I think something couldbe done with content extraction robots-means synchronization with google groups...


    Just a thought, have no desire to offend anyone... I think sysadmins can come up with the technological solution howto fix what is going to be broken.


    Feliks.




    In Reply to Don Senchuk:


    Well, some people care who floats a bad idea. I don't. Just like I don't care who floats a good idea. The idea (or thought or suggestion or method) should stand or fall on its own merits, regardless of who proposed it. "Don't bash PTC" is an entirely different conversation.

    Having said that, you're entirely correct that isn't not the same. I responded to Ryan Kelly's email via the old tried and true 'Respond to All'. The same one I've been using to communicate during this thread (and all others on the Exploder that didn't need to be personally directed). I've been waiting to see what people's response was to the details I feel he should also consider addressing to both communities in his November address. Alas, I'm pretty sure 'Respond to All' doesn't actually do anything. I'm also still waiting for confirmation that 'Respond' even goes to the person directly at all. Or perhaps it just gets flushed into the Abyss.

    It's also a wonder to me that with all the technology available, my picking 'Respond to All' and snipping out any personal email addresses - leaving, for example, -< - it doesn't take what I've written and go make a forum post.
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