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T_F16-Pearl
16-Pearl
July 12, 2021
Question

color to holes

  • July 12, 2021
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In many companies, and even in industries, there are some "rules" to apply colors to some features, and specially to holes.

Now I paint holes with mapkeys. But if the pattern adds a new instance, the newly created hole needs to be repainted.

 

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Any one knows how to replicate the colors of the newly created holes? Any app? Any workflow?

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    KenFarley21-Topaz II
    21-Topaz II
    July 12, 2021

    As far as I know when I apply appearances to a specific surface that appearance designation is "attached" to a specific surface ID only. If I want that appearance to apply to more surfaces I have to pick all the individual surfaces added to modify them, too. Regrettably, I can't see any way to apply appearances to a feature, which would be pretty nice.

    So it seems your only option is the tedious one. Unless someone else knows a cool trick to do this kind of thing...

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    T_F16-PearlAuthor
    16-Pearl
    July 12, 2021

    I'm afraid of this... Perhaps anyone as a specific toolkit app! Anyone?

     

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    TomU23-Emerald IV
    23-Emerald IV
    July 12, 2021

    Many of us have been asking for something like this for a long time without having to resort to a 3rd party product.  Unfortunately there is still nothing from PTC.  The only solution that I'm currently aware of is SMARTColor by B&W.

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      T_F16-PearlAuthor
      16-Pearl
      July 12, 2021

      Maybe PTC can add this to CREO like did with other apps, like ifx

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        19-Tanzanite
        pausob19-Tanzanite
        19-Tanzanite
        July 12, 2021

        Yes.

         

        Searching for surfaces by feature(s), then applying your colors to the returned selection set.

        Not automatic, but way less tedious than picking-by-clicking...

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        T_F16-PearlAuthor
        16-Pearl
        July 12, 2021

        True, but if I design in top down assemblies, if I add a hole in this part, the plate that has the threaded holes, will add a hole also. So I need to repaint the holes of this plates, and at the same time the threaded holes of the plate, so double tedious work. And if I forgot the holes of the plate, it will be a mistake made by me. It should be parametric

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          19-Tanzanite
          pausob19-Tanzanite
          19-Tanzanite
          July 13, 2021

          Of course it should be parametric - so publish your gripes on the product idea forums.

          This forum is about work-arounds, not about how things should be 🙂

           

          I notice you have the latest version with multi-body functionality.  I wonder if you could get the colors to stay with the body?  I guess I'm thinking of a work-around where the volume of the holes is modelled in a body that is subtracted away from the main body.  Does that operation preserve the surface colors?

          Patriot_1776
          Patriot_177622-Sapphire II
          22-Sapphire II
          July 13, 2021

          You can apply a color to "surfaces" by "feature" using the search tool.  Depending on things, you can also apply color by "intent surfaces".

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          T_F16-PearlAuthor
          16-Pearl
          July 13, 2021

          But if the feature add surfaces, the original color will appear on those surfaces

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            T_F16-PearlAuthor
            16-Pearl
            July 13, 2021

            Here an example

            https://youtu.be/rqCftuLJO-U

            https://youtu.be/HHqJx7p3l_8

             

             

             

             

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            MartinHanak24-Ruby III
            24-Ruby III
            July 13, 2021

            Hi,

            I assume the following trick is not the solution to your problem ...

            • assign magenta color to part
            • assign grey color to all solid surfaces of the part
            • create a hole ... magenta color appears on hole surfaces

            Unfortunatelly any material removal displays newly created surfaces in magenta color.

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            T_F16-PearlAuthor
            16-Pearl
            July 13, 2021

            That's true!

             

            But I will have a mix a of counterbored holes and pin holes! One is pink another is blue!

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              T_F16-PearlAuthor
              16-Pearl
              July 13, 2021

              I invite you to vote the idea for this enhancement. Maybe if PTC see a lot of votes, can convert this to an enhancment!

               

              https://community.ptc.com/t5/Creo-Parametric-Ideas/To-paint-threaded-holes-with-some-color/idi-p/575190#M14481

               

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                23-Emerald III
                BenLoosli23-Emerald III
                23-Emerald III
                July 13, 2021

                Is this an industry standard or a company requirement?

                What other CAD systems do this automatically?

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                23-Emerald IV
                TomU23-Emerald IV
                23-Emerald IV
                July 13, 2021

                In Catia it's very straight forward to pre-build the negative hole geometry with their appropriate colors and then with one click remove all the material from the downstream parts.  No hole thread information was transferred but with the colors you really didn't need it.  (This was 15 years ago.  Not sure what's changed since then.)

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                  T_F16-PearlAuthor
                  16-Pearl
                  July 13, 2021

                  In CATIA  the information of holes IS transferred! There is an option called Technological results, and all of the information of the holes is transferred between parts. It's very robust and very productive way of working!

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                    T_F16-PearlAuthor
                    16-Pearl
                    July 19, 2021

                    I everyone.

                    I've been working on this.

                    I found a workaround to have the holes painted, even the ones added after hole creation.

                     

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHo9Cg1fskc

                    If you are interested I can share the files.

                     

                    As I said, it's a workaround, the files become more heavier. @TomU , the idea is similar to what CATIA does with negative copy.

                    In my opinion, PTC Should deliver color on holes, and the negative copy of hole, and as well, thread transfer between parts. It would be a lot easier to do it! @mneumueller it would be possible to do something in multibody?

                      Patriot_1776
                      Patriot_177622-Sapphire II
                      22-Sapphire II
                      July 27, 2021

                      Just looks like they're using the search tool to me, manually, as I mentioned.  I played around with it a little (since it doesn't affect me at all), and also came to the conclusion there's no easy way.  I was HOPING that "Intent Surfaces" would do it, like intent USUALLY works for, say, adding rounds, but it doesn't.

                       

                      Now that I see it's a thing for you guys, it would make sense for PTC to make this enhancement.  But, we're STILL waiting for the solid-body sweeps that we've been asking for for years, so....

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