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16-Pearl
November 1, 2022
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Mathcad Community Challenge November 2022 - American Football Field Goal Geometry

  • November 1, 2022
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This month’s challenge is around field goals in American football.

Create a Mathcad worksheet where you calculate the following angles from a given line of scrimmage for making a field goal:

  • The horizontal angle between the left and right field goal posts (18.5 feet apart).
  • The vertical angle between the horizontal bar of the goal post and the upper height of the goal post arms.

How can you show how those angles change as a function of the line of scrimmage?2560px-Acre_over_US_and_Associationl_football_field.png



 


Factors to take into consideration:

  • Assume the football is kicked from one of the hash marks (offset from the center of the field) and 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage.
  • The goal post is located at the back of the end zone. The horizontal bar is 10 feet above the ground and extend another 35 feet. For this exercise, the football must pass through the box defined by the goal post.
  • American football uses yards, feet, and even inches, so you might want to take advantage of units in Mathcad.
  • Bonus: Can your worksheet handle entering yards from “your” side of the field (beyond the 50 yard line)? If not, feel free to use lines of scrimmage in excess of 50 yards.
  • You can ignore air resistance for trajectory calculations. You can also ignore anything pertaining to the shape of the football or its motion through the air (treat it like a point; no need to turn this into a doctoral thesis).

We’re dealing with Euclidean geometry, so the math shouldn’t be that complicated. What matters is your execution. What tools (like plots and charts) can help you communicate the results?

 

Find the Mathcad Community Challenge Guidelines here!

 

By the way, the longest field goal in NFL history was kicked by Justin Tucker of the Baltimore Ravens in September 2021. It was 66 yards, meaning the line of scrimmage was the Detroit 49 yard line, and it was kicked from the Baltimore 44 yard line. Next time you’re on a football field, check out how far that is and how narrow the window looks. Field goal range is considered to be within the opposing team’s 35 yard line, which means the kick is 52 yards.

Best answer by ChaseP

I didn't do the best job of documenting my trigonometry and what my variable names refer to, but I think I hit the two objectives!

8 replies

18-Opal
November 1, 2022

So that I dont have to talk to Bill Belichick can the kicks be made from the extreme left and right offset or just the middle offsets?

16-Pearl
November 2, 2022

For this challenge, the kick will be made from either the left or right hash mark in the middle of the field (the ones located 40 feet apart from each other). Not the ones along the sideline that help players judge whether they are in the field of play.

 

And you spelled Belicheat wrong.

23-Emerald I
November 3, 2022

Hmmm!  Did I miss it?  Or have you not specified the initial velocity or the impulse of the kick?  If it's me kicking, the ball won't ever get to the goalposts!  😉

18-Opal
November 3, 2022

Maybe we have to assume that when the ball goes over the goal it’s vertical velocity is zero.

 

Then we can work out the time and then the required horizontal velocity.

23-Emerald I
November 3, 2022

So the ball stops falling as it gets to the goal?  Does not continue to the ground?  Does not bounce?  

 

Hmmm!

16-Pearl
November 4, 2022

But if I want to make it into a dissertation....

 

Does the field run the typical North-South direction?  And are we kicking north or south?

23-Emerald I
November 16, 2022

Okay!

Express can't solve this for a general case.  But a solve block can.

Prime 4 Express file attached.

18-Opal
November 17, 2022

Here is my go at it.

May have done better with soccer!

Prime 8 file attached.

PDF attached

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1-Visitor
November 27, 2022

I didn't do the best job of documenting my trigonometry and what my variable names refer to, but I think I hit the two objectives!

18-Opal
November 30, 2022

Quick reminder to everyone that November only has 30 days, so this is the last day the challenge will be open for canon submissions!

18-Opal
December 8, 2022

Thanks to those that participated (and PTC Community badges are given out). Here's Dave's write-up blog: https://www.mathcad.com/en/blogs/community-challenge-football-field-goal-geometry