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May 14, 2010
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Friday Rant

  • May 14, 2010
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As a long time user of proe and a having a continuous rant on:

The extra clicks that we have to go thru when we want to leave a feature or delete something.

Yes, when weclick on "delete" I really want to delete the feature!!!!!

Whenwe want to leave a feature "incomplete" yeswe really want to leave a feature incomplete!!!!!

Yes, when I want to leave sketcher, I really want to leave sketcher and all the other "do you really want to's and we have tomouse click our way outwhatever we are trying to leave andthat we have to go thru, please give me an option to turn off all these annoying mouse clicks! i'm a veteren user and I know what I'm doing!

And I'm not even talking about the mouse travel!! Click on something and a window pops up ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCREEN! Hello carpel tunnel ___

I will be atOrlando, is anyone interested in meeting on this? let meknow. WF 5is no better.

John


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1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
I feel your pain every day...we are currently working on a mold extract that
is 20mb...cant even move the mouse and all the geometry lights up like
fireworks..then wait, wait, wait , wait, wait for pro to settle down so you
can attempt to drill down and click some geometry that is deep as China. How
aggravating, let alone the wasted time..give me back my 2001 version and my
speed would double..guaranteed. Pro has become a joke...we were better off 5
yrs ago. I never seen so much wasted time working with this disco dancing
highlight, button pushing software...WHEH!!!!!



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1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
And yet, for all the complaining, we all still use it ! Why ? Because it is still better than the competition. Some might argue that other packages a easier to use, and they probably are. But, can you do as much with them as you can with Pro/E. Gotta take the good with the bad in this world 😞

Can't have the whine without the cheese.

My $.02

Jeff Horacek
Sr. Designer
[cid:841182718@14052010-3191]
STERIS Corporation
5960 Heisley Rd.
Mentor, OH 44060
(440)392-7721 P
(440)392-8954 F
1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
Mapkeys help!

I've use qq to back completely out of the UI, creating or modifying a
feature.

Regards,
Joe S.

1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
//Rant On



Also when deleting sketch entities having missing references, having to
confirm each deletion is painful... This happens to me when I use
silouhette edges in sketches for die and mold work and the cavity
changes. Even though the curve is supposed to be 'parametric'. I guess
no one told this to sketcher. (WF 4)



BTW in Solidworks, you have the option of 'Don't remind me again' for
most dialogs. You can then go to a page in the preferences and turn the
dialog notifications back on if needed. (Great Idea)



//Rant off



Oh,... that feels better.




1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
I particularly love how when you "use edge" in sketcher you still have to "trim" all the intersecting edges (creating "weak" dimensions") and when you trim arcs it ALWAYS trims to the wrong side.

Scott Cserep
Design Engineer
(ph)815-874-7821 ext 2920
(fx)815-874-2144


>>> Chris Gosnell <-> 5/14/2010 1:33 PM >>>
//Rant On



Also when deleting sketch entities having missing references, having to
confirm each deletion is painful... This happens to me when I use
silouhette edges in sketches for die and mold work and the cavity
changes. Even though the curve is supposed to be 'parametric'. I guess
no one told this to sketcher. (WF 4)



BTW in Solidworks, you have the option of 'Don't remind me again' for
most dialogs. You can then go to a page in the preferences and turn the
dialog notifications back on if needed. (Great Idea)



//Rant off



Oh,... that feels better.




12-Amethyst
May 14, 2010
You can set the config option "prehighlight" to "no" and the model won't highlight when your mouse is over it.
You can also set the config option "prehighlight_tree" to "no" and the model won't highlight when you hover over the model name in the model tree.

Arnold
1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
One BIG problem to turning off the prehighlight - PTC got rid of the RMB
query select pick!

I have resorted to mapkeying prehighlight on and off - major pain.





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1-Visitor
May 14, 2010
And how about the fact that you can't reverse assembly constraints
(except mate and align). If you insert something and it pops in the
wrong way, you can't just reverse it (like in SW). You have to add
another constraint to straighten it out. And when using tangent
constraints, you can sometimes have 2 or 3 different valid solutions,
but there is no way to switch between them. I have to add datums, other
constraints, etc., just to make a tangent work sometimes. And how about
when you get a part situated just the way you want it, then say OK, and
presto-changeo! It reverses orientation! Seems to me a simple menu pick
to reverse orientation or pick between alternate solutions would be dead
simple to implement, but maybe not.


Ken Sauter
DRS Reconnaissance Surveillance and Target Acquisition
Infrared Technologies Division
PO Box 740188
Dallas, TX 75374
214-860-6826
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12-Amethyst
May 14, 2010
You can still RMB > Pick from list.

Here is my mapkey to turn pre-highlighting on and off, use once to turn off, then use again to turn back on.

!THIS MAPKEY TOGGLES PRE-HIGHLIGHTING!
mapkey vph @MAPKEY_LABELPrehighlighting;\
mapkey(continued) ~ Select `main_dlg_cur` `MenuBar1`1 `Edit`;\
mapkey(continued) ~ Select `main_dlg_cur` `Edit.cbSelect`;~ Close `main_dlg_cur` `MenuBar1`;\
mapkey(continued) ~ Close `main_dlg_cur` `Edit.cbSelect`;\
mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `main_dlg_cur` `psh_sel_filter`;\
mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `selprefs` `PrehButton` ;~ Activate `selprefs` `Ok`;

Arnold
1-Visitor
May 14, 2010

I was going to add to my rant:

Please don't bring up mapkeys--I have a ton of them.

Please don't talk about complaining or whining or its better than the competion or we are using it and all that n.......

If it can be improved--improve it! Give me an option to turn it off! I'll take my chances!

I was at a WF5 PTC demo and part of the sales pich was "decreased mouse travel".

The firstitem I tried was atool bar click and viola, the menu popped up on the far side of the screen, the farthest possible distance from where the mouse pointer was. I called it to the attention of the rep and of course the reply was -- not my department!!

John