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that_guy4-Participant
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October 3, 2019
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User defined bubble number using BOM table

  • October 3, 2019
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I think a lot of people, myself included need a BOM table which will display user defined balloon numbers. I don't want the index numbers in the balloons. Ideally, I need a table that I can have the BOM plus a column in which I can define the balloon number required. This would save a lot of time from having to manually create balloon notes with my desired number. Thx

Best answer by StephenW

Fix index is definitely the fastest, easiest method. If I was doing it regularly, I would make a set of mapkeys to get me most of the way there.

The component parameter method I mentioned would be way more upfront work and would be much less user friendly (more training).

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Dale_Rosema
Dale_Rosema23-Emerald IV
23-Emerald IV
October 3, 2019

If you want your suggestion to be voted on post in the first link below. The ideas were searched with the following results:

 

https://community.ptc.com/t5/Creo-Parametric-Ideas/idb-p/creoparametric

 

Found one for balloon numbers instead of dimensions for quality/checking:

https://community.ptc.com/t5/Creo-Parametric-Ideas/BOM-Balloons-for-Drawing-Dimensions/idi-p/470671

 

Fixing indices numbers.

https://community.ptc.com/t5/Creo-Parametric-Ideas/Fix-BOM-Indecies-for-all-Representations/idi-p/464241

 

Or post your idea in the first link.

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that_guy4-ParticipantAuthor
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October 3, 2019

I posted in the idea section. Thanks.

StephenW
StephenW23-Emerald III
23-Emerald III
October 3, 2019

I would use a component parameter and set that in your repeat region bom instead of the index.

You would need to make a custom bom balloon to use that instead of the index number.

Search for component parameters bom index or something similar.

It's completely do-able

 

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    that_guy4-ParticipantAuthor
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    October 7, 2019

    We are concerned that a component parameter makes you check out that part, then assign it a specific item number and that number would have to be the same every time. This wouldn't work for us because that part may have a different item number each time. Plus, if you have a big enough BOM, checking out all those parts would suck.

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    that_guy4-ParticipantAuthor
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    October 7, 2019

    whoops, I guess I replied to the wrong message. That was meant for the reply above. Anyway, for the unfixing - fixing of the index numbers this works but is a little cumbersome and difficult to use especially if you don't understand repeat regions. I suppose my only gripe is hard to use. 

     

    Thanks for the reply.

    Patriot_1776
    Patriot_177622-Sapphire II
    22-Sapphire II
    October 3, 2019

    I'm curious as to why simply using a repeat region box, then FIXING the index numbers to what you want doesn't work for you.  You realize you can re-order the indexes of your BOM to have any part be any number, and it locks it that way, right?  For reference, you should always fix your repeat region anyway to keep the index numbers from changing and messing up note references to them.

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      BenLoosli23-Emerald III
      23-Emerald III
      October 7, 2019

      Explain your rational as to why a custom BOM number is preferred over a system generated number that is propagated to related items automatically?

      Fixing the BOM table locks the numbers so they don't change, unless you unfix the table and resort it. Even then, BOM numbers will update, but item numbers in a note will not.

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      that_guy4-ParticipantAuthor
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      October 7, 2019

      We don't publish BOMs (with part numbers) on drawings, we only item number (bubble number). Our BOMs contain item number, part number, and also sequence numbers. Our assemblers don't like that we don't publish BOMs with part numbers on our drawings. So what they have to do is match the item number on a print to the item number in the MRP. This definitely has it's pros and cons. Unfortunately, I can't change the process. 

       

      That being said, we can still "put" a BOM on the drawing but it would be placed outside of the drawing template and not be printed as a contained item. This BOM could be used to bubble quickly because you can bubble by parts in a view. As mentioned, if this table had all the normal index/part number stuff from the model tree but also a bubble number column that can be quickly edited as a text item and be associated/linked this would be a little easier to manage. If we have to change bubble numbers in the future this would be arguably harder to screw up by some other engineer that's never messed with repeat regions. 

       

      Anyway, repeat region - select - select - unfix - fix - edit - whatever - whatever, does work.

      StephenW
      StephenW23-Emerald IIIAnswer
      23-Emerald III
      October 7, 2019

      Fix index is definitely the fastest, easiest method. If I was doing it regularly, I would make a set of mapkeys to get me most of the way there.

      The component parameter method I mentioned would be way more upfront work and would be much less user friendly (more training).

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