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DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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February 21, 2012
Question

Creo is NOT Creo/Elements Pro

  • February 21, 2012
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I am creating this post due to my frustration with the confusion caused by PTC with their naming changes recently.


Creo/Elements Pro 5 = Pro/ENGINEER


Creo = Creo


I see many people are still confused by calling Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5, Creo. Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5 was renamed Creo/Elements Pro 5. Creo/Elements Pro 5 is not the same as PTC's new CAD suite called Creo. They are two completely different things.


Many people when asking questions about Creo, get responses on Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is like asking someone a question about Lexus vehicle and they give you an answer based on a Toyota.


I also find Youtube videos claiming to show something realted to Creo and when I open the video it's actually Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is NOT Creo.


This is not the end users fault and more PTC's fault for rebranding Pro/ENGINEER as Creo/Elements Pro and not allowing it to retire with any respect for it's original name that it held for 25 years.


Creo/Elements Pro is Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire with a new name. I refuse to call Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire, Creo/Elements Pro.


Creo on the other hand is PTC's new CAD software that is based on the same Kernel as Pro/ENGINEER (Creo/Elements Pro), but it's a completely new software.


This is why Creo started back at Number 1 for it's version.


Creo 1.0 is NOT Creo/Elements Pro 5.


OK.


I feel better now.


I don't blame the end users for the confusion, but just wanted to get this off my chest.


LOL


"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"

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    ptc-5936191-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    Simple, PTC can call it what they will - creating tons of confusion and
    loss of market share. The users continue to call it Wildfire whatever
    and Creo newbie- no confusion. Now we just have to make the "genius" who
    thought this Creo "branding" was a good idea, see the havoc being
    wreaked throughout ProE land and get them to change it.



    Richard A. Black

    Lead Design Engineer

    Eaton Corporation

    440 Murray Hill Road

    Southern Pines

    NC 28387 USA


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    lococnc1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    I agree 100%, I am finding much frustration in using search engines to
    find info specific to CREO and get results for the "other". PTC really
    screwed up on the name change of Pro/E. I don't mind the new product
    being called CREO but they should have left the old stuff alone.

    On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Damian Castillo
    <-> wrote:
    > I am creating this post due to my frustration with the confusion caused by
    > PTC with their naming changes recently.
    >
    > Creo/Elements Pro 5 = Pro/ENGINEER
    >
    > Creo = Creo
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    iceblink11-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    Allow me to be the devil's advocate...


    You are all just being conservative. Apart from the new name being a
    bit long, there is not much to complain about.

    Back in 1995 Mechanica was bought by PTC. The interface totally changed
    because the software was integrated with Pro/Engineer. The name changed
    to Pro/Mechanica. Now it is part of the Pro/* "suite". I'm sure noone
    will complain about this anymore, it makes sense to us now.

    Same with Pro/Engineer, it will now be a mere subset of the Creo/*
    suite and therefore be called Creo/Something.

    You better all get used to it because it will not go away.



    Regards,

    Patrick Asselman



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    ptc-19327451-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    /sarc

    No please, don't change it again! Who knows what they will come up with!

    /sarc



    BTW, regardless of the name change, we still call "creo elements / pro 5" --- "pro27" in house.



    Christopher F. Gosnell



    FPD Company

    124 Hidden Valley Road

    McMurray, PA 15317
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    ptc-19327451-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    Also, to make things more confusing (to us as well), I just looked and most of our option licenses are reporting as v31.0, except for NC-check reporting v29.0



    Christopher F. Gosnell



    FPD Company

    124 Hidden Valley Road

    McMurray, PA 15317
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    ptc-5936191-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    Anyone remember "Haloid", how about it's new name "Xerox". How about
    "Datsun", that's now "Nissan" so I guess it does work!



    But then there is "accenture" which was Andersen Consulting post Enron,
    and "Altria" - the new "Philip Morris" without blowing smoke and "Xe"
    better known as "Blackwater" of the itchy finger so maybe it doesn't
    always.



    Richard A. Black

    Lead Design Engineer

    Eaton Corporation

    440 Murray Hill Road

    Southern Pines

    NC 28387 USA


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    JonathanHodgson13-Aquamarine
    13-Aquamarine
    February 21, 2012
    But as far as I know, a Datsun Cherry you’d bought two years previously didn’t suddenly become a Nissan Cherry…



    Jonathan


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    cfly1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    Except that WF 5 was already out there by the name 'Wildfire 5'. Then, they
    introduced a brand new version (akin to the old Pro/E vs. Wildfire). And
    they changed the name of something that was already known by one name and
    wrapped it up into a brand new product with a different name. They didn't
    call Pro/E 2001 (or whatever the last version was before WF) something new,
    like Pro/E 2001/Wildfire. THAT is confusing.

    Applied Research Labs
    University of Texas at Austin
    Carol Fly
    Mechanical Designer
    (512) 835-3397
    Fax (512) 835-3259

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    ptc-4154111-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    And my Datsun 120Y did not stop being a piece of junk...


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    DamianCastillo1-VisitorAuthor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012

    The big difference here is that PTC changed the name of a 25 year old product before they could retire it. Datsun became Nissan. Pro/ENGINEER became Creo. Nothing wrong with that.


    But PTC had Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 4 and then Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5 which was later renamed to Creo/Elments Pro 5.


    25 years of Pro/ENGINEER and they could not let it retire with any respect. They changed the name and confused many people on what Creo/Elements Pro is vs. the new Creo platform.


    I have no issues with the new Creo name. Just the fact that they changed the 25 year old Pro/ENGINEER to some confusing name mid stream.


    A simple name is better moving forward especially for doing Google and Youtube searches. But the confusion they added with rebranding the Pro/ENGINEER software to Creo/Elements Pro is terrible.


    When we finally upgraded to Creo 1.0 and I sent an email announcing that it's coming to my end users. I had many of them reply with confusion. They told me that we already changed over to Creo, so what is going on now? Well, they actually got Creo/Elements Pro which is really Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire and though that Creo was a shortened version of the name.


    When they opened Creo 1.0, they realized this was a completely new animal and it was not Pro/ENGINEER.


    Grrrrrrr.


    "Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"

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