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DamianCastillo1-Visitor
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February 21, 2012
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Creo is NOT Creo/Elements Pro

  • February 21, 2012
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I am creating this post due to my frustration with the confusion caused by PTC with their naming changes recently.


Creo/Elements Pro 5 = Pro/ENGINEER


Creo = Creo


I see many people are still confused by calling Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5, Creo. Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5 was renamed Creo/Elements Pro 5. Creo/Elements Pro 5 is not the same as PTC's new CAD suite called Creo. They are two completely different things.


Many people when asking questions about Creo, get responses on Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is like asking someone a question about Lexus vehicle and they give you an answer based on a Toyota.


I also find Youtube videos claiming to show something realted to Creo and when I open the video it's actually Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is NOT Creo.


This is not the end users fault and more PTC's fault for rebranding Pro/ENGINEER as Creo/Elements Pro and not allowing it to retire with any respect for it's original name that it held for 25 years.


Creo/Elements Pro is Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire with a new name. I refuse to call Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire, Creo/Elements Pro.


Creo on the other hand is PTC's new CAD software that is based on the same Kernel as Pro/ENGINEER (Creo/Elements Pro), but it's a completely new software.


This is why Creo started back at Number 1 for it's version.


Creo 1.0 is NOT Creo/Elements Pro 5.


OK.


I feel better now.


I don't blame the end users for the confusion, but just wanted to get this off my chest.


LOL


"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"

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    TimKnier1-Visitor
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    February 21, 2012
    All of this name changing and re-branding is just a worldwide ploy by sales and marketing people everywhere. It's meant to confuse consumers into thinking they're buying something new and exciting when it's just the same old boring stuff.

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    bokm96061-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012

    to avoid confusion just refer to the CAD system as:



    Pro/Creo/Fire/Engineer


    what name of CAD system do you put on your resume?


    i really dig having to search about 8-9 criteria in google to try to find some tips:


    *pro/e


    *pro\e


    *proe


    *pro wildfire


    *wildfire cad


    *pro/engineer


    *creo


    *creo elements.


    *pro/WF


    et


    etc




    funny, Solidworks hasn't changed the name of their CAD system. just think the number behind it corresponds to the year of release...maybe PTC should take notes.


    Quiz, what year was WF 3.0 released?





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    japrenticeuk1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012

    Some history is retained nevertheless:-


    This is not the end users fault and more PTC's fault for rebranding Pro/ENGINEER as Creo/Elements Pro and not allowing it to retire with any respect for it's original name that it held for 25 years.

    as we are reminded of a great heritage every time we use the menu manager in Creo 1.0 to tune (some would say set-up) the hatching in a drawing section view ;=)

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    John Prentice
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    A.DelNegro1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    You missed a good one… remember Goldstar (think low-end Radio Shack electronics)? Their new name? “LG”.




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    mheath1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    Committee on Recently Extinct Organisms.

    Ironic ain’t it?

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    DonSenchuk12-Amethyst
    12-Amethyst
    February 21, 2012

    Huh.


    Here all along I thought it stood for 'Commence Revenue Extraction Operation'

    In Reply to Michael Heath:


    Committee on Recently Extinct Organisms.

    Ironic ain’t it?

    http://creo.amnh.org/


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    TomU23-Emerald IV
    23-Emerald IV
    February 21, 2012
    The confusion even extends into PTC's knowledge base. Articles for VERY old releases show up as part of the "new" Creo. Here is an example. Since when was 2000i part of the Creo Parametric Direct and Layout product?

    1. When Saving a Drawing in a Linked Session of Pro/ENGINEER, the Error Message: 'Write Acess Denied' For All Family Table Instances That Are Not Checked Out" Appears.<">http://www.ptc.com/appserver/cs/view/solution.jsp?n=107806>
    ...a user saves the drawing in a linked session of Pro/ENGINEER release 2000i or 2000i2, the error message: " 'write access denied' for all family table instances that are not checked out to the Pro/INTRALINK Workspace" appears. Pro/ENGINEER...
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    nrollins1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012
    "find and replace all"


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    wattsteam1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 21, 2012

    This brings to mind a sensitive point. I have been told by my VAR that my ProE Foundation licences and ASX surfacing extension licenses are NOT UPGRADEABLE to Creo, even though I have paid maintenance every year like a good (but maybe dumb) boy since my initial ProE license purchase. They tell me if my customers need me to upgrade my systems to Creo I will have to buy all new Creo licences brand new at a cost of several tens of thousands of dollars. Has anyone else had the same experience? Is this truly PTC's approach or just another sales pitch / money grab from my VAR? After being a paying customer of PTC for many years (and many tens of thousands of maintenance dollars paid) I didn't expect to be treated like someone just off the street buying their first license. Maybe I'm just naive. Best regards Jeff Dayman
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    dgallup1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    February 22, 2012

    Your Pro/E license should upgrade to Creo Parametric. If you need/want Creo Direct you will need additional licenses. That's my understanding, I'm waiting for Creo 2.0 before trying it.

    In Reply to Jeff Dayman:



    This brings to mind a sensitive point. I have been told by my VAR that my ProE Foundation licences and ASX surfacing extension licenses are NOT UPGRADEABLE to Creo, even though I have paid maintenance every year like a good (but maybe dumb) boy since my initial ProE license purchase. They tell me if my customers need me to upgrade my systems to Creo I will have to buy all new Creo licences brand new at a cost of several tens of thousands of dollars. Has anyone else had the same experience? Is this truly PTC's approach or just another sales pitch / money grab from my VAR? After being a paying customer of PTC for many years (and many tens of thousands of maintenance dollars paid) I didn't expect to be treated like someone just off the street buying their first license. Maybe I'm just naive. Best regards Jeff Dayman
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