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November 6, 2012
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Selective delete in windchill 10

  • November 6, 2012
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Ok so this was possible in ILINK3.4 how do you do it in WC10. See picture below. I would like to delete 8010-120_mfg.asm version A.1 from the data base. Unfortunately I cannot I can delete A.4 through A.1. Purge is not the answer. I do not want to delete from A.1 through A.3 and leave only A.4 I would like to selectively delete these items from the database.

Ron


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23-Emerald IV
November 6, 2012
Welcome to Windchill. No can do. No selective delete. No purge selective revisions. No delete everything but the latest X versions. You have two options. You can delete everything from the latest backwards using the "Delete" function or you can use Purge and never get rid of the last iteration of each revision (A.4 and B.1 below).

Tom U.
November 6, 2012

Welcome to the wonderful world of Windchill.


As you have discoverred, you can only delete the latest version, or all iterations of the latest revision.


Gerry Champoux
Williams International
Walled Lake, MI

In Reply to Ron Rich:



Ok so this was possible in ILINK3.4 how do you do it in WC10. See picture below. I would like to delete 8010-120_mfg.asm version A.1 from the data base. Unfortunately I cannot I can delete A.4 through A.1. Purge is not the answer. I do not want to delete from A.1 through A.3 and leave only A.4 I would like to selectively delete these items from the database.

rrich1-VisitorAuthor
1-Visitor
November 6, 2012
I hate progress. Give me back my .7HB pencil and let me make drawings.

Ron
1-Visitor
November 6, 2012
Only way I know of doing this is using the wctk DeleteObjects. You can specify a specific Revision and Iteration in a csv file and run the tool.

Here is the patch.
10.0-M0X0_WCTK_2.0 Windchill Toolkit [Seq 05]

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1-Visitor
November 6, 2012
Intralink 3.4 is a pretend PDM. we pretend we release something then we go
back and delete it and replace it with something better.

windchill is a real PDM. You release something and that's it, there is no
going back to cleanup the trail... especially if you waited several months
to discover something. so what do you do if you need to delete rev A and
rev B is already released? just roll back every single linked item to all
A.X revisions and then delete one at a time as required, then redo all the
work. Or go to C with rev A.4 as the start point then go to rev D with rev
B as the start point. Hey if A is already in someone's hand as paper,
forget about deleting it from your db.


November 6, 2012

Has anyone ever received this toolkit deletion patch for Windchill 9.1, and willing to share it?
I've requested it from PTC, but they are stonewalling me.



Gerry Champoux
Williams International
Walled Lake, MI


In Reply to Joe Kent:


Only way I know of doing this is using the wctk DeleteObjects. You can specify a specific Revision and Iteration in a csv file and run the tool.

Here is the patch.
10.0-M0X0_WCTK_2.0 Windchill Toolkit [Seq 05]

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Joe Kent
Engineering Systems Administrator
R&D/Leverage(tm)
Structural Brand Development / Mold Manufacturing
"With Us, Ideas Take Shape"

Tel: 816-525-0353 x6527

www.rdleverage.com<
Innovations in packaging design!
Innovations in mold manufacturing!
Learn more here www.rdleverage.com<
12-Amethyst
November 6, 2012
I couldn't say better. Thanks, Aome.

Met vriendelijke groeten, best Regards,

Hugo.
November 6, 2012

Can't argue with that.


But what about deleting unreleased objects?
Windchill still does not allow such.

Simple example:
User inadvertantly rolls the revision of a model to the next letter.
Weeks go by before anyone notices.
By this time, many iterations have been checked-in, but nothing released.
Once notified, I (the admin) try to delete them. Normally, I should be able to do so. (all iterations of latest rev)
However, the model is now in use any many assemblies.
Windchill won't allow me to delete the revision of the model (a part) because it is in use.
Some would say that if I were allowed to delete the model, those assemblies will fail to regenerate.
Yes! That's exactly what I want to have happen, so that the designers will know they need to fix their assemblies with the same model at correct revision.


In short: Deleting stuff like this should be allowed for the admin.


Gerry Champoux
Williams International
Walled Lake, MI


In Reply to alfonso medina:


Intralink 3.4 is a pretend PDM. we pretend we release something then we go
back and delete it and replace it with something better.

windchill is a real PDM. You release something and that's it, there is no
going back to cleanup the trail... especially if you waited several months
to discover something. so what do you do if you need to delete rev A and
rev B is already released? just roll back every single linked item to all
A.X revisions and then delete one at a time as required, then redo all the
work. Or go to C with rev A.4 as the start point then go to rev D with rev
B as the start point. Hey if A is already in someone's hand as paper,
forget about deleting it from your db.


14-Alexandrite
November 6, 2012
Windchill is a real WHAT?
Please tell me you are joking?

PDM, whether it is INTRALINK or something else, is supposed to be a value added tool, and a tool should NEVER prevent me from performing an action that I think and/or know is best.
A tool that I use should NEVER tell me what is right and/or wrong, it should only do what I want and need it to do.

It is me as the user that needs to know what is right/wrong and have the knowledge to being using, otherwise, me as a user has to deal with the consequences.


21-Topaz I
November 6, 2012
Over the years one of the things we stress to our users is that the BOM report of the assembly they are working on MUST be at a released state if it's not on their ECN.

So if 123.prt is in an assembly they are working on and the .prt is version 2.2 at In Work but it's not on their ECN then they MUST use the last Production Released version of revision 1.

We know we can't make this 100% full-proof but we have been able to limit any problems because of that. We also know there are exceptions but they are rare.

This may not work for everyone but for us it does.

Steve G