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13-Aquamarine
January 16, 2012
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Minor but annoying - easy improvements?

  • January 16, 2012
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Following another thread about real-world use versus PTC trainers' knowledge, how about we start a list of small things, which ought to be relatively easy for PTC to change, that nonetheless annoy you on a day-to-day basis (and always seem to be passed over in favour of introducing dashboards and ribbons)?

Since various PTC people contribute here, if we keep it tidy and concise perhaps some of our issues could be considered for addressing in imminent versions of Pro/E / Creo (/wishful thinking...)

So, here are some starters:

  • Angle x D chamfers almost always choose the wrong direction for the angle by default
  • Surface merges almost always choose the wrong sides of the quilts to keep by default
  • Save a Copy leaves you editing the original model (opposite to Windows Save As), whilst Backup leaves you editing the backup model (why would you make a backup and then change the backup?)
  • When you're working in "widget.prt" and you create a new drawing, Pro/E assumes the name "drw0001". How likely is it that you don't want to create "widget.drw" at this point?

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62 replies

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

Suggestion - add commonly used shapes to sketcher. examples - round ended slots with the origin at centre, hex shape, keyhole shape (round slot with larger hole at one end), rib shape (narrow rectangle with angled sides, with pre-defined angle dimensions on sides), drilled hole sketch for rotated cuts (rectangle with 59 deg angled bottom edge), T shaped sketch for T slots, triangle sketches, one sharp one with radisued corners.

Thanks Jeff Dayman

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

Some of that can be found in the Sketcher Palette

SKETCHER PALETTE.PNG

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

*Allowing spaces in file names AND in the feature tree (Let's move from the "DOS" ages)

*Save as Copy allows for a checkbox to open the copy and work on it directly; not having to go to the "open" command. Usually if we are saving a copy - it's because we want to WORK with the copy

*Allowing complete mouse control over panning, zooming and rotating (no shift command required)

*More compatibility with five button mice (thumb buttons set for "double click" are not recognized in Pro)

*Utilizing the right click menu for "Done/Return", "Okay" and other such commands in the various menu managers

*Allow for more than one hole to be added per single hole command. In every other 3D software I've used, this has been the case. Not in Pro/Creo.

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

Kris Rowlands wrote:

*Allowing spaces in file names AND in the feature tree (Let's move from the "DOS" ages)

Pro-e was written on the UNIX platform, not DOS. Using underscore instead of spaces in a constraint of UNIX from what I've heard.


Kris Rowlands wrote:

*Utilizing the right click menu for "Done/Return", "Okay" and other such commands in the various menu managers


This is achieved with the middle mouse button click. Definitely a problem if you don't have one, but I don't think mouses come that way anymore, I don't know.

Hoping to make the program make a little more sense,

Kevin

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

I know it was written in UNIX, but when it was decided to port it to Windows years ago, I feel this should have been addressed. I believe spaces in file names have been allowed since Win 98 (I think), therefore I feel Pro should update as well.

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

*Allow all Pro E/ Creo windows to remember custom window sizing last used. It's frustrating to resize every window every time.

*Allow for more than one hole to be created per hole feature. This is standard in all other 3D programs I have used. Not Pro E/Creo.

*Allow for clicking of dimensions to create relations. For example, when editing a dimenion, to create a simple relation, type in the dimension box "=((click to select dim)*2)/(click to select another dimension)

* Allow Pro E/Creo to remember column widths set in various screens; if working with a family table, remember column widths from previous access so I don't have to keep re-sizing the columns to see the full value in the cell.

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

Kris Rowlands wrote:

*Allow for more than one hole to be created per hole feature. This is standard in all other 3D programs I have used. Not Pro E/Creo.

* Allow Pro E/Creo to remember column widths set in various screens; if working with a family table, remember column widths from previous access so I don't have to keep re-sizing the columns to see the full value in the cell.

1-Visitor
March 26, 2012
  • Have the selection filter be consistent across modes - I have a mapkey that opens the Measure dialog & sets the selection filter to "Surface" if it's in assembly mode, but if I'm in part mode, it sets it to " Face Vertex" because the mapkey records the position in the list, not the actual selection.
  • In the Repeat component dialog, have the middle mouse button confirm it, not cancel it.
  • For that matter, make the middle mouse button more consistent - always a confirm.
1-Visitor
March 26, 2012

Four things come to mind:

1) The snap to grid function has been broken since WF 1; please fix.

2) The screen line font scales do not match the printed line font scales.

3) More than just annoying: when making a plane tangent to a curve and parallel or normal to another plane, the new plane almost always goes to the wrong side of the curve, often, beyond the extents of the curve - there should be a way to specify what quadrant we want the tangent to go to, rather than having to add another constraint to force it to the correct side.

4) I put in an enhancement request several years ago that has been completely ignored - no status change or anything: when replacing a part in an assembly, we have the option of replacing it with a copy of said part, then editing the copy as needed; I would like to see the ability to replace a part with a subassembly whose first component is the part being replaced, in the default position. In my company, we often start with a part that is attached through clearance holes, then find out down the line that we need to add helical inserts to it; this would reduce the number of steps necessary to do so.

1-Visitor
March 27, 2012

*Pressing enter while in Pro/Table does not move you to the next cell. You must either click an arrow or use the mouse. Make it move with the enter key.

1-Visitor
March 27, 2012

1. When I want to pick a reference for a feature on a nice prismatic part, why does it always select an edge and not a surface? I want to choose a surface many times more often than I ever want to choose an edge.

2. When selecting a mate or align constraint for a component, why does it put a random number in for the offset, instead of assuming coincidence? (Except for those occasional times when it does assume coincidence, for no apparent reason)

3. When it has (incorrectly) assumed that I want to Mate component A, Face 1 with Component B, Face 2, offset by 15127mm, why then do I have to click the incorrect number, then the drop-down arrow, then the 'Coincident' entry? Why not have a shortcut, why not let me roll the mouse wheel, why not have the drop-down permanently available, why not do it some other way than this irritatingly awkward way?

4. Why, when I am using a physically large model (many metres (Yards) long), does it constantly move the display from one random zoomed out position to another whenever I click on a constraint, or try to edit a dimension, or anything? This is not just refitting, because it goes to a different place each time.

5. Why is the middle button 'OK' in Pro/E but 'No' or 'Cancel' in Intralink? So when I save an assembly in Pro/E and middle button to accept the default, if there are parts that are 'Read-Only' I have to move the mouse and select 'OK' in the warning box - middle button selects 'Cancel'.

6. In summary, why is the UI not more consistent?

I'm sure I'll think of others...

1-Visitor
March 27, 2012

I thought of another one...

When I Copy & Paste, if I select the wrong orientation of the arrows (always a bit of a gamble, I must say) why can't I re-define the copied feature and try the opposite direction?

1-Visitor
March 27, 2012

You can.

1-Visitor
March 27, 2012

Actually, I can't.

Thanks for the help, though...

1-Visitor
March 27, 2012

OMGoodness I forgot one of the most aggravating things for me.

*Allow fillets in an assembly! If you are doing cuts in an assy, and then want to fillet an edge in that cut, you should be able to do so. I realize that a fillet ADDS material, but in real-life, if someone is machining an assy, they can add a fillet after a cut operation. Fillets should be the last op to any machining, but if machining in an assy in Pro/Creo, you can't do it.

And...

*If setting your Working DIrectory in the folder tree, automatically open this in the browser once it's set to working,.

1-Visitor
March 30, 2012

When the user selects a component or feature that is in a group, highlight the name of the group in the model tree! This would save tons of time.

1-Visitor
March 30, 2012

Thanks Lyle!!

I am currently working on Groups right now on a legacy part done years ago and it is truly a pain trying to figure out in the tree where I am.

It would also be nice to have the group name highlight in red after a failed feature rebuild for the tree collapses and you cannot see where the failure is either.