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July 23, 2014
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Creo 3.0 first thoughts?

  • July 23, 2014
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I attended a Hands On Workshop yesterday, and today I'm really digging into it on my own computer (Dell M3800, 16 Gb RAM).


It's freezing (Creo Parametric Not Responding) on my computer. A lot. On simple stuff, like reorienting the model, and creating a boundary blend. We don't plan on deploying until testing M020 for a couple months at the earliest, but as it is on my computer, the user experience is too painful.


Anyone else play with it yet?



David R. Martin II


Senior CAD Application Specialist


Amazon

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    STEVEG21-Topaz I
    21-Topaz I
    July 25, 2014

    What about a command to find what version of OpenGL a graphics card currently supports.


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    TomU23-Emerald IV
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    July 25, 2014
    Sure enough. Hardware notes says "recommended", Read Me says "required". I think I'll open a case and see what tech support has to say.

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    STEVEG21-Topaz I
    21-Topaz I
    July 25, 2014
    Tom,

    If you open a case please let us know what they say. I am interested in what their answer will be.

    I was just looking at the dell_creo3.pdf which has this note.



    Creo 3.0 uses advanced OpenGL 4.0 capabilities that are necessary to support Order Independent Transparency - this functionality will not be available on systems with graphics cards which support OpenGL 3.x or earlier, such as Quadro FX.




    I am in conversation with our IT dept. I am trying to coordinate with them how to go about updating if it is required. I am not saying we will be going to Creo 3 anytime soon. But I wanted to give them enough time to think about it and get it done.


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    TomU23-Emerald IV
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    July 25, 2014
    Here is the response from tech support:

    To be precise, "Graphics Card that Support OpenGL 4.0 are recommended for Creo 3.0. Not compulsory". Creo 3.0 would still work if the graphics card does not support OpenGL 4.0 and runs on 3.2. If the user would like to make use of the newer graphics enhancements like Order Independent Transparency (OIT) functionality (To know more about OIT, please refer CS116210<),">https://www.ptc.com/appserver/cs/view/solution.jsp?n=CS116210>), then they should use a graphics card that supports OpenGL 4.0 version.
    Tom U.
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    RonGrabau1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    July 25, 2014
    I have a tangent question on this. Which of these three options has the quickest display? Has anyone run Ocus with each of these settings to see if there is a difference?

    Ronald B. Grabau
    HP PDE-IT
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    TomU23-Emerald IV
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    July 25, 2014
    I'd have to dig through the trail file (or ask Olaf), but I highly doubt the OCUS benchmark is ever turning on OIT.

    Tom U.
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    TomU23-Emerald IV
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    July 28, 2014
    Since tech support said it's not "required", I asked them to change that statement in the Read Me document. Here was their response:

    "After sending my last email, I had a quick chat with one of our internal contacts on this. It seems that they would prefer to keep that statement in the Readme.pdf. Cause, they would like our customers to upgrade their existing card graphics drivers to a version that supports OpenGL 4.0 as it is "highly" recommended to have the best utilization of Creo 3.0 graphics related enhancements.

    In Creo 3.0 they made OpenGL 4.0 as the core. So, having a card that supports 4.0 is highly recommended. But, Creo 3.0 would still run if the card only supports 3.x versions. The internal contact also mentioned that most of the current day graphics cards are capable of supporting 4.0 or later. So, if the card manufacturer or vendor has a latest driver version that supports OpenGL 4.0, then the user could install it and make use of the latest enhancements in Creo 3.0.

    If a Creo 3.0 user works on a machine that does not have a graphics card driver that supports OpenGL 4.0, then they will not be able to use OIT and will not be able to see the better display of advanced materials like GLASS, PAINT etc. applied to the 3D models."

    Hopefully this will be helpful as you plan your upgrade paths.

    Tom U.
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    dmartin11-GarnetAuthor
    11-Garnet
    July 28, 2014

    For the record, my issues may be more related to the Dell M3800 than Creo 3.0. I dropped my M3800 off with our IT department because it blue screens a lot. (Before the M3800, it had been years since the old BSOD.) The M3800 has a ton of graphics issues.


    Both Creo Parametric 3.0 and Direct 3.0 appear to work fine on my old Lenovo W530.



    David R. Martin II


    Senior CAD Application Specialist


    Amazon

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    mheath1-Visitor
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    July 28, 2014
    My first thought is when the heck are they going to put Creo 3.0 on the Software Download web page?
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    TomU23-Emerald IV
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    July 28, 2014
    It's there. Been there for a while now.

    Tom U.

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